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Title: What's up with TETSUBO ?
Post by: Lychee of the Exchequer on March 18, 2020, 07:45:58 AM
I read on another forum that the TETSUBO rpg in production since 2018 was dropped by the game studio who produced Zweihänder. Does someone know something about it ?
Title: What's up with TETSUBO ?
Post by: Omega on March 18, 2020, 07:56:13 AM
Quote from: Lychee of the Exchequer;1124511I read on another forum that the TETSUBO rpg in production since 2018 was dropped by the game studio who produced Zweihänder. Does someone know something about it ?

Scroll down and you'll find a thread on it.
Title: What's up with TETSUBO ?
Post by: lordmalachdrim on March 18, 2020, 03:03:27 PM
Long story short. Daniel Fox feels it is not woke enough and since it wasn't written by an Asian it can never be woke enough to publish. As such he has dropped it and is looking for an Asian to write a game with that sort of setting.
Title: What's up with TETSUBO ?
Post by: trechriron on March 19, 2020, 12:22:13 AM
Quote from: lordmalachdrim;1124538Long story short. Daniel Fox feels it is not woke enough and since it wasn't written by an Asian it can never be woke enough to publish. As such he has dropped it and is looking for an Asian to write a game with that sort of setting.

Also, you are supposed be impressed with his selfless sacrifice and buy all the things from him. Today if possible.
Title: What's up with TETSUBO ?
Post by: Spinachcat on March 19, 2020, 04:43:39 AM
Quote from: lordmalachdrim;1124538As such he has dropped it and is looking for an Asian to write a game with that sort of setting.

Back in high school, our game club had a Japanese guy who was a hardcore "Japanese supremacist", and he was such an awesome Bushido GM. His Bushido games were the best. I'd love for him to write Tetsubo and watch Danny Asshat's brain explode by the 3rd page.

I remember when AEG launched Legends of the Five Rings. John Wick did a presentation at a local convention on the amount of research he did and how he balanced "real folklore" vs. gameable ideas, plus learning how to fight with a katana. But hey, Wick's a white guy so how could he know anything?
Title: What's up with TETSUBO ?
Post by: oggsmash on March 19, 2020, 09:12:33 AM
Yeah, I have only read a decent amount of Japanese history, and little of china and Korea, but what I remember, they were not and are still not very woke.  At all.  Why should one try to present their culture as such.  Let the GM make it as woke or not as they want.   An rpg, a setting, a ruleset is a tool, like a hammer.  To be used as the owner sees fit.  Maybe pandering doesnt cost enough in most cases so people keep doing it.
Title: What's up with TETSUBO ?
Post by: GameDaddy on March 19, 2020, 09:13:18 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat;1124566Back in high school, our game club had a Japanese guy who was a hardcore "Japanese supremacist", and he was such an awesome Bushido GM. His Bushido games were the best. I'd love for him to write Tetsubo and watch Danny Asshat's brain explode by the 3rd page.

I remember when AEG launched Legends of the Five Rings. John Wick did a presentation at a local convention on the amount of research he did and how he balanced "real folklore" vs. gameable ideas, plus learning how to fight with a katana. But hey, Wick's a white guy so how could he know anything?

I never knew that about L5R, but their minis were some of the best. I have a great collection of 28mm L5R Samurai that were gifted to me at Origins from AEG during the golden days of L5R.
Title: What's up with TETSUBO ?
Post by: Spinachcat on March 19, 2020, 08:41:10 PM
GameDaddy, I absolutely recommend L5R 1e, and the minis were terrific. The RPG is a fabulous example of a full game in one book. Unfortunately, AEG's L5R minis wargame didn't take off, but they had great sculpts.
Title: What's up with TETSUBO ?
Post by: Melan on March 20, 2020, 04:51:44 AM
Tetsubo is a legendary lost manuscript - back when I was religiously reading the WFRP mailing list (that would be the 1998-2000 era), it was considered one of the holy grails (after the Realms of Chaos books, which existed, but were super-rare and hard to obtain).
Title: What's up with TETSUBO ?
Post by: Vile Traveller on March 20, 2020, 04:55:25 AM
I haven't followed the story, but having a Japanese writer is the only way you're going to get a meaningfully "Japanese" game. Nothing wrong with going for a pastiche like Oriental Adventures of Land of the Ninja, but there's no way anyone not Japanese is going to really get Japanese culture. Because they. Will. Not. Let gaijin in, no matter how one tries.
Title: What's up with TETSUBO ?
Post by: Spinachcat on March 20, 2020, 05:53:13 AM
While a Japanese author in Japan might be the best person to write about modern Japanese culture, I don't believe today's Japanese culture and the culture of fantasy samurai Japan are remotely the same. We're talking about the culture of the samurai eras PLUS the "culture" of ancient Japanese folklore.