The furries can be dealt with right after the gingers!

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;848763The furries can be dealt with right after the gingers!

Somehow rabid sports fans and 'thespians' escaped being on that flow chart.

I never did understand the disdain for furries. Not that I've known any, but even from reputation I'm not clear on what is supposedly so awful about them.
As for all the anthropomorphic games like Albedo and such... I associate those far more with the upsurge in anthropomorphic comics after TMNT hit it big than having anything to do with appealing to the furry community, if it was even a thing way back then.

Albedo came out in 83. TMNT came out in 84.
The Albedo RPG came out in 88. The TMNT RPG in 85 by Palladium.
Usagi Yojimbo came out in Albedo in 84 but did not get an RPG till 98 by Gold Rush Games.

Gotta admit to being a bit of an Usagi fan. I don't think of Usagi as much as "furry" as "funny animal" a la Donald Duck though. Actually my description of Usagi would be "Disney samurai drawn Groo style" wich while not completely right isn't completely wrong either.

Another "funny animal" comic I like - my fave actually, beyond even Carl Barks - is Jason. Imagine Donald Duck drawn by Herge. Allthough the stories are adult (not in the pr0n sense) mind, but also often very smart, weird, out there, silly, or all of them. They vary though.

My fave Jason stories (in no particular order):
1) a comic version of The Iron Wagon (oldschool murder mystery)
2) a story set on an alternative Earth wherein assassination is legal, an assassin with marital troubles is hired to go to the past to kill Hitler. Stuff gets a bit...complicated.
2) basically a Flash Gordon story starring Athos (the Musketeer)
3) story about a dude whose life went to shit when his childhood BFF died (social realism, tragedy)
4) a zombie survival love story
5) Ernest Hemingway and a couple other early 20th century authors decide to rob a bank. Oh and rather than novels, they make comics.
There's more though!

Much recommended to everyone!

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;848763The furries can be dealt with right after the gingers!

Oy! I was ginger as a kid!:mad::banghead::rant:

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Quote from: Omega;849172Albedo came out in 83. TMNT came out in 84.

I was referring to the RPG versions but even with the comics I don't see a direct connection to the furry community... though I suppose they might have liked those comics. I liked Albedo because it seemed a lot like Traveller-style scifi.

Quote from: Simlasa;849210I was referring to the RPG versions but even with the comics I don't see a direct connection to the furry community... though I suppose they might have liked those comics. I liked Albedo because it seemed a lot like Traveller-style scifi.

They arent. They are precursors during the big boom in indie comics. Bucky O'hare was another in 84, Xenozoic Tales, AKA: Cadillacs & Dinosaurs, came out in 87. So you see a number of funny-animal style comics and the more realiztic styles and all sorts of mixes. Or even older pieces like Gnuff from 74, or Bamse in 66/73.

And yeah. Albedo has that very hard fiction feel to it. One of the reasons I optioned to work on the RPG. Then Sanguine ganked the deal for themselves.

Quote from: Angry_Douchebag;848276Are you shitting me?  If I thought they at least had some kind of quantifiable mental illness at least they would garner my sympathy.  As far as I can tell, most anyone who claims to be a furry, does so simply to be able to wear it on their sleeve as an attention grab.  

I have never bought into the notion of gamers as a homogenous group, either.  An interest in tabletop gaming is a hobby, not a collection of cultural practices and mores passed through generations.  Gamers are NOT a culture.  

Gamers, at least, have a common social activity in the form of slaying dragons and taking their stuff.  We have rulebooks and dice and pints of beer and two liters of Mountain Dew.  I'll take my sort of mental wankery over any delusion that I'm the reincarnation of Poopsie, Lord Hamburger's prize Schweinhund.

Tired of people trying to elevate their nonsense into social causes.

No, I really am not shitting you.  I've long since considered the whole gaming/SF/fantasy/LARPing subculture to be one of the most viciously exclusionary and rabidly intolerant of outliers around.  Our ability to rationalize our own "set" as Normal Blokes Just Enjoying A Friendly Game, while the Other Guys are freaks!!! and losers who merit ostracization at best, is surpassed only by junior high school.

And they, at least, have the excuse of going through puberty.

Anyway, thanks for demonstrating my point.

Quote from: Simlasa;848841I never did understand the disdain for furries. Not that I've known any, but even from reputation I'm not clear on what is supposedly so awful about them.

I've always thought that they were whacky, but then again I'm an ex-LARPer who for 12-20 weekends a year, for fourteen years, pretended to be a prince and the realm's most powerful magician, with dozens of PC vassals, and expected others to take me seriously in that role.  So who am I to talk?  95% of the world would consider ME a whackjob.

Quote from: Ravenswing;849492I've always thought that they were whacky.

The greater majrority are animation, comic and art fans. No different any other animation, comic, or art fan aside from the particular subject they gravitate too. Much like some people gravitate to space opera, some to planet romance, some to hard fiction, etc.

This statement is so addled that it makes my head hurt.

You guys might want to reach out to Phil Brucato and Bill Bridges on Facebook. They're both rather accessible and friendly, and we're involved with Werewolf during most of it's lifecycle.

In my 15 years of contact with W:TA, the game is generally far too grim for most furs to countenance. Most furs I know generally dislike W:TA, because of it's strong themes of brutal combat, horror, and community and responsibility.

Most furs are interested in playing furry human beings, not monsters.

Context: I've run 3 campaigns of W:TA, and have played a Silver Fang elder in an extended MET Larp in Jacksonville in the 90s, as well as Garou at several other LARPS. There's not as much overlap between Fur fandom and WoD as you may think.\

Now, Changeling The Dreaming and Otherkin? entirely different story.