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What games to represent the current main styles?

Started by Itachi, September 03, 2019, 09:49:05 AM

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Timothe

#30
September 04, 2019, 06:52:46 AM
Why doesn't anyone play 1E AD&D?

SavageSchemer

#31
September 04, 2019, 12:44:23 PM
Quote from: Timothe;1102245Why doesn't anyone play 1E AD&D?

Who says they don't?
The more clichéd my group plays their characters, the better. I don't want Deep Drama™ and Real Acting™ in the precious few hours away from my family and job. I want cheap thrills, constant action, involved-but-not-super-complex plots, and cheesy but lovable characters.
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Mankcam

#32
September 04, 2019, 10:13:15 PM
I'm sure there are folks still playing AD&D, or who have gone back or rediscovered it.

Some of the retroclones use alot of elements from AD&D, such as OSRIC, and AS&SH (although the later has heavier sword & sorcery trappings)

But AD&D isn't a current game, which was what the OP was asking for in regards to recommendations.

(Although I possibly should have added AS&SH to my list of suggestions)

Alexander Kalinowski

#33
September 05, 2019, 02:49:08 AM
Quote from: jhkim;1102171That fits my impression is that FFG's Star Wars is more relevant than Modiphius.

2d20 was on the charts before though: https://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/39857/top-5-roleplaying-games-fall-2017
Also, you could question if Star Wars' placement isn't largely due to the IP. That said, I did include FFG Star Wars as well - because between the funny dice, the non-binary task resolution and the more modern application of metacurrency, this is bound to be at least eye brow-raising (unlike Apocalypse World or Fiasco, which are probably outright shocking to someone out of the loop for 20+ years).
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Shawn Driscoll

#34
September 05, 2019, 02:59:56 AM
Quote from: Itachi;1102032If you had a friend who wants to come back to gaming after a long hiatus (say, the 90s) what 3 or 4 games do you think are relevant to introduce him to, so he has a nice picture of where the hobby is now?
I'd first ask him what die mechanic he likes. Then go from there. I never talk OSR with anyone. We just use the names of games when comparing RPGs.

Philotomy Jurament

#35
September 05, 2019, 02:53:51 PM
Quote from: Itachi;1102032If you had a friend who wants to come back to gaming after a long hiatus (say, the 90s) what 3 or 4 games do you think are relevant to introduce him to, so he has a nice picture of where the hobby is now?
Well, it's my friend and wants to game with me, I'm not going to be concerned with the hobby as a whole. I'll introduce him to the games from my little corner of the hobby. For example:

  • Original D&D and 1e AD&D - (If he's "from the 90s" he might be familiar with AD&D 2e, so these might actually feel comfortable and familiar). I'd probably also show him some of the clones like OSRIC and Astonishing Swordsmen & Sorcerers of Hyperborea, and the new material that is available from all sorts of clones that can be used in your D&D game.
  • Call of Cthulhu - (CoC is kind of eternal, so he might be familiar with this, too)
  • RQ/BRP fantasy variants - (This could be RQ/Stormbringer/Hawkmoon/MagicWorld/etc. I tend to use BRP for pseudo-historical fantasy stuff, especially)
  • Misc Other RPGs - Gamma World 1e, Morrow Project, Flashing Blades, Bushido, Rolemaster 2, etc. Anything I'd be enthusiastic about but rarely play or haven't played in a long time.
  • Wargames - Field of Glory, L'Art de la Guerre, Flying Colors, Chainmail, Blitzkrieg, etc.
I know that isn't a "picture of the hobby today," but it's a picture of the hobby as I'm involved in it.

QuoteAnd do you think it's important to separate D&D 5e from the OSR?
Yeah. Not looking to argue the point, but I don't consider D&D 5e to be an OSR game.
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Rhedyn

#36
September 05, 2019, 06:31:10 PM
Quote from: Philotomy Jurament;1102590Yeah. Not looking to argue the point, but I don't consider D&D 5e to be an OSR game.
You can run Keep on the borderlands with it and ACs do line up. Everything in 5e just has tons of HP. So you can use OSR stuff in your 5e game, but not 5e stuff in your OSR games.

S'mon

#37
September 06, 2019, 03:51:56 AM
Quote from: Rhedyn;1102624You can run Keep on the borderlands with it and ACs do line up. Everything in 5e just has tons of HP. So you can use OSR stuff in your 5e game, but not 5e stuff in your OSR games.

AC lines up once flipped, but you need to double hit points & damage, and work out an attack bonus either stat mod + PB, or just use the DMG table of AB by CR.

Opaopajr

#38
September 06, 2019, 06:56:39 AM
I'd probably hand him an ever-increasing itemizing tax form then shout abuse at him while shaking the speaking stick from inside a menstrual hut. :) Once he has had enough, I'd tell him he is caught up with the RPG scene and ask if he'd like to play some of our old favorites. :D
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tenbones

#39
September 06, 2019, 12:36:13 PM
Quote from: Opaopajr;1102690I'd probably hand him an ever-increasing itemizing tax form then shout abuse at him while shaking the speaking stick from inside a menstrual hut. :) Once he has had enough, I'd tell him he is caught up with the RPG scene and ask if he'd like to play some of our old favorites. :D

This game sounds WAY too meta for me! WAY too meta!

As a side note, menstrual speaking sticks should be a mechanic, or a weapon, or a "lightsaber equivalent" for a 5e class.

tenbones

#40
September 06, 2019, 12:38:47 PM
For someone coming back into gaming from that era...

I'd show them:

5e D&D
Savage Worlds - Pick the setting they're into.
OSR for "comfort-food"

and something off that centerline - Modiphius or FFG's Genesys/Star Wars

you can spiral out from there, or go back to some old favorite to bake him in the oven a bit more.

cranebump

#41
September 06, 2019, 06:35:10 PM
Mine would be:

5E (current mode of the flagship)
PbtA (and variants)
Bol (Everywhen, I guess?)
Savage Worlds (because of step dice)
Various OSR interps (maybe including Black Hack, which focuses on attributes; and some others, maybe Microlite, to illustrate minimalism)
PF (to show where 3E has gone)
13th Age (to show a bit of 4E)
FATE (current iteration of Fudge)

It's a broad representation of various modes of play, and certainly not all inclusive. Just trying to show how things have morphed, over time.
"When devils will the blackest sins put on, they do suggest at first with heavenly shows..."

Rhedyn

#42
September 06, 2019, 07:40:52 PM
Quote from: cranebump;1102805FATE (current iteration of Fudge)
First of all, how dare you.

Second, Fudge is a traditional RPG meta toolkit, while Fate is a storygame fudge build. And the dice are different.

nope

#43
September 06, 2019, 07:44:13 PM
Quote from: Rhedyn;1102812First of all, how dare you.

That.

Aglondir

#44
September 06, 2019, 08:04:02 PM
Quote from: Rhedyn;1102812First of all, how dare you.

Second, Fudge is a traditional RPG meta toolkit, while Fate is a storygame fudge build. And the dice are different.

The dice are different? I thought they both used 4dF?
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