I think the big thing here is that you shouldn't need to label your game "anti-woke". The big issue with Woke shit is that The Message trumps any actual creativity. When you say you are making a Woke book. You are saying you are making something that is entirely about wokeness, A good RPG book doesn't need that. You label your book as the cool book that has rules for new things that are exciting. You don't need to say it's woke. The same applies to "anti-woke". You are saying that is your main selling point which tells me you don't have anything cool or worthwhile other than being "anti-woke". If you did you wouldn't need to say you're "anti-woke".

Good work stands on it's own and doesn't need political labels. People buy good work. They don't buy shallow political pamphlets.

I encourage everyone to hire Offensivity Readers to ensure that the games you produce are sufficiently offensive. I'm willing to offer my services as OR to game products so that your product can receive the coveted 100% Offensive rating.

Quote from: Battlemaster on April 26, 2022, 12:29:27 PM
What do you think would happen if a game was billed as "Non woke"?

It would appeal more to the non-woke political junkie twitter crowd that'd buy it just to use as virtual signaling that it's a thing. But not ever play it probably.

Regular normies would probably want to no more about what the game actually is first before considering buying.

Quote from: Zelen on April 29, 2022, 03:34:45 PM
I encourage everyone to hire Offensivity Readers to ensure that the games you produce are sufficiently offensive. I'm willing to hire my services as OR to game products so that your product can receive the coveted 100% Offensive rating.

Now that's a scam ehem a plan.

Quote from: Battlemaster on April 26, 2022, 12:29:27 PM
OK picture if you wil,l a RPG comes out and the ads for it say clearly it is "non woke"? The writers declare it non woke. They say they avoided the woke agenda when they wrote it.

You dont make a RPG that is "non woke"

You make a RPG thats fucking bad ass.

Quote from: Shasarak on April 29, 2022, 05:53:30 PM

Quote from: Battlemaster on April 26, 2022, 12:29:27 PM
OK picture if you wil,l a RPG comes out and the ads for it say clearly it is "non woke"? The writers declare it non woke. They say they avoided the woke agenda when they wrote it.

You dont make a RPG that is "non woke"

You make a RPG thats fucking bad ass.

THIS!

Aren't most games non-woke?   We just read them and they're "normal".  Aka, you never noticed anything was wrong.   Because there isn't anything wrong. 

It's the insufferable writers who get noticed because of the weird, left turns in the narrative, or overly explained left wing virtues in their works.  You can almost see the blue hair dye, overly pierced faces, and butterfly tattoos in those cases.   It is even worse when it is a female writer.

Also, would a non-woke game require different stats for women vs men?   Biology is fact, and average men are bigger than average women. 

Quote from: Shawn Driscoll on April 29, 2022, 05:17:40 PM

Quote from: Battlemaster on April 26, 2022, 12:29:27 PM
What do you think would happen if a game was billed as "Non woke"?

It would appeal more to the non-woke political junkie twitter crowd that'd buy it just to use as virtual signaling that it's a thing. But not ever play it probably.

Regular normies would probably want to no more about what the game actually is first before considering buying.

This.

In reality a non-woke game would probably be just as distracting as a woke one.  We play games to have fun, and the rules need to be helpful, not distracting. 

I'm also perfectly able to modify/house rule my own games to fit my style.  Aka I keep cultures separate so traveling introduces culture shock.  And I keep it real so neighboring cultures despise each other for trivial things. 

I agree with the general sentiment here.  I want the game to be good, not "none-woke."

An unfortunate consequence of this is that it makes it easy for the woke cause problems.  They want to pursue their agenda.  Most of the rest of us don't have an agenda - we just want to do our thing, whether in games or elsewhere.  So we don't push back against those idiots until they start to bother us, and by that time they have people, momentum, and resources.  And then people start to give up because there's too much momentum.  It's a classic case of "The only thing needed for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing."  It's worked for the nazis and any number of other bad actors through history.

Not sure if real. I'm not on twitter. Probably a meme. I dunno.

Quote from: palaeomerus on April 30, 2022, 06:16:09 PM


Not sure if real. I'm not on twitter. Probably a meme. I dunno.

MFRN

Quote from: weirdguy564 on April 30, 2022, 08:25:51 AM
Also, would a non-woke game require different stats for women vs men?   Biology is fact, and average men are bigger than average women.

It was established in a thread a few months ago that giving women different stats was a very effective tool. All the people you never want to game with will instantly reject the game, leaving just the players who actually want to game.

Quote from: palaeomerus on April 30, 2022, 06:16:09 PM


Not sure if real. I'm not on twitter. Probably a meme. I dunno.

Evil transgenders?
How based.

Mongoose had a bestiary book which included an entire race of clown fiends called façadas.