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Whaaa! My Rogue Sucks! Whaaaaa!
kryyst:
Rogue's in 3.0 or 3.5 kick all kinds of ass they are one of the better classes from start to finish. Mix in a couple levels of fighter along the way for a little added beef and they are amazing. Their feats and skill compliment each other perfectly and just keep racking up that Use Magical Device and Rogues are truly kick ass.
CleanCutRogue:
Okay okay... maybe I'm being a big baby. But I haven't made a Rogue in third edition that didn't take a few levels of Fighter for the "added Beef". I guess my largest complaint is the general breakdown of the classic archetypes. Other than magic being reserved for wizard spells - anyone can get a little bit of one another's abilities... or a lot of one another's abilities with the ease of multiclassing. I was a little pissed when our group's wizard (who has such a high Intelligence bonus that she gets plenty of skill points) was able to move silently better than me...
Cyberzombie:
If I could, I would BURN the archetypes to the ground and never let them be rebuilt again!
But after 20 years of playing D&D, there's not much more I can do with any of 'em. :)
Bagpuss:
--- Quote from: CleanCutRogue ---I was a little pissed when our group's wizard (who has such a high Intelligence bonus that she gets plenty of skill points) was able to move silently better than me...
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Serious how?
First off unless he took Rogue levels his skill cap would be half yours. The wizard also has better Dex than your Rogue? Even with one level of Rogue to get rid of the skill cap, the wizard is paying double for Move Silently.
CleanCutRogue:
Cuz I have a rogue with a 15 dexterity and crappy Intelligence score, and I multiclass equally with a Fighter. The Wizard has an amazing INT and DEX (lucky dice rolling) and is concentrating on stealth (with feats and gear, etc). At lower levels, the Wiz was better. Of course as time progressed I became better at it - but no amout of skill points I spend will get me a spell, while he can dabble like mad in what I do. That's my point.
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