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Author Topic: WFRP3e - FFG announces The Enemy Within  (Read 8009 times)

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« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2012, 04:29:28 PM »
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The adventure boxes they've put out so far have been quality products.  I probably won't buy this one though for the simple fact that I've got enough WFRP 3 stuff to last me a good while that I hadn't touched yet.


I have Gathering Storm for the purpose of running it with 2e. I agree the adventure seems pretty cool.

I will probably get The Enemy Within for the same reason. It looks like it will be different enough to allow me to run my old group through it, without just replaying the original version which we all remember.

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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2012, 06:54:27 PM »
Now I know how those kids who watched original Star Wars in '77 feel, watching the "digitally enhanced" versions lately. Or new Indiana Jones movie.


http://nooooooooooooooo.com/

Enemy Within was the first thing from Warhammer I had read, before reading the corebook for 1e, because my father had a lot of supplements but no corebook. In other words, thanks a lot, FFG, for proceeding to spew vomit onto my childhood.

This is at least an admission that they know that their crap will never be as good as Enemy Within.
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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2012, 06:56:43 PM »
HHHHNNNNNGGGGGHHHHHKKKKKKRRRRRAAAARRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!

FFG is part of the Roleplaying Axis of Evil. I hate what they've done to WFRP.
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« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2012, 07:06:46 PM »
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The adventure boxes they've put out so far have been quality products.  I probably won't buy this one though for the simple fact that I've got enough WFRP 3 stuff to last me a good while that I hadn't touched yet.

They are done by a company who believes that "Full Draw", as in drawing the crossbow or a bow with a true maximal strength (I will not bother the idiocy of crossbow in this one) will allow you greater damage.
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I do make characters with greater strength deal greater damage with a Longbow, but should you not require a a "special action" (aka tell the GM) if you are NOT drawing the bow with your full strength?
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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2012, 07:32:54 PM »
This is going to suck so bad...

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« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2012, 07:41:59 PM »
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This is going to suck so bad...


I suspect so.

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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2012, 07:48:31 PM »
Tremble, mortals, and despair! FFG has come to this world.
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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2012, 08:50:29 PM »
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They are done by a company who believes that "Full Draw", as in drawing the crossbow or a bow with a true maximal strength (I will not bother the idiocy of crossbow in this one) will allow you greater damage.
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I do make characters with greater strength deal greater damage with a Longbow, but should you not require a a "special action" (aka tell the GM) if you are NOT drawing the bow with your full strength?


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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2012, 09:37:35 PM »
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A surprise and clever move for FFG - http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=3112

I can't see how a $60 product with all of the chaff can cover the same scope as the original campaign, but they do expect it to cover at least 30 sessions. I see its broken into 3 adventures and it looks very different in terms of story.

Still interesting.


Fuck me, that reeks of desperation.

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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2012, 09:49:12 PM »
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Fuck me, that reeks of desperation.
First "Print on Demand" card expansions because they're not selling enough for a print run and now a "Please come back, old fuckers" campaign.

Shove a fork up their ass, they're done.
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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2012, 09:50:52 PM »
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First "Print on Demand" card expansions because they're not selling enough for a print run and now a "Please come back, old fuckers" campaign.

Shove a fork up their ass, they're done.

Well, POD is the rather logical thing to do if you aren't DnD or BRP or Warhammer.

Oh wait.

Kidding aside - POD is pretty reasonable for RPGs. But this is a vain hope that perhaps some foolish enough from the OS of Warhammer will buy it.
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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2012, 10:01:15 PM »
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First "Print on Demand" card expansions because they're not selling enough for a print run and now a "Please come back, old fuckers" campaign.

Shove a fork up their ass, they're done.


Well, i tried the reasonable explanation, but this'll do!

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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2012, 10:47:06 PM »
In the end, these guys will just have proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that RPGs are their own thing, and that inserting story-bullshit, board-game crap and the like into the medium, especially the Classics, just leads to complete failure.

Thank you, Forge guys!

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« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2012, 05:50:32 AM »
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But this is a vain hope that perhaps some foolish enough from the OS of Warhammer will buy it.
This is completely in line with their whole strategy for WFRP -
1. Slap a well-recognised RPG brand on a box.
2. Fill said box with crap.
3. Charge far too much for it.
4. Profit!

It's a bit like strip-mining - they didn't create the resource; they're just exploiting it.

Basically, WFRP3e is no different from blood diamonds.
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« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2012, 06:50:38 AM »
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Colour me unsurprised. It's WotC all over again. Outreach to fans of previous editions.

Well, there's a difference between Andy Collins (a 3e WotC guy) or Ari Marmell (a d20 freelancer) rewriting Tomb of Horrors for 4th edition, and WotC asking Gary Gygax to write it (which they didn't).

At least FFG went back to one of the original authors, Graeme Davis, who's going to be co-writing and/or developing it. He says more about it on his blog,

http://graemedavis.wordpress.com/2012/03/01/the-enemy-within-again/

where he clarifies inter alia that it's not going to be a conversion at all. Think Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil, and I think you get an idea of where they are going with this.

That apart, I'm frankly amazed at the sort of hate and doomsaying this announcement draws. Because they go the route of 'Return to the Temple' it's writing on the wall that Warhammer 3rd is dead? Geez - did you say that too when Monte wrote something similar for 3.0? No? So what's the reasoning here? Another bout of wishful thinking?

I have no idea.

As for myself, I've just been in touch with our Deathwatch GM earlier today and we're going to run this campaign later this year. While I don't have high hopes, I look forward to it, and I'll certainly post play experience with it on this board.
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