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Westerns out of time and place

Started by Toadmaster, January 13, 2018, 02:39:33 PM

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Aglondir

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Last Man Standing (1996) with Bruce Willis and Christopher Walken. Mixes gunslingers and gangsters  in a Prohbition era old west town. I can't recall if it was good or bad.

Dumarest

Quote from: Aglondir;1020812Last Man Standing (1996) with Tom Hanks and Christopher Walken. Mixes gunslingers and gangsters  in a Prohbition era old west town. I can't recall if it was good or bad.

Never even heard of that one.

CausticJedi

Quote from: Aglondir;1020812Last Man Standing (1996) with Tom Hanks and Christopher Walken. Mixes gunslingers and gangsters  in a Prohbition era old west town. I can't recall if it was good or bad.
You mean Bruce Willis?  Not Tom Hanks.  But yeah, it was based off of Akira Kurosawa's Yojimbo.  I personally thought it was pretty good, but the original was far, far better.

Maybe that Kurosawa series of movies would also count according to the OP, now that it's been brought up.

crkrueger

Quote from: Aglondir;1020812Last Man Standing (1996) with Tom Hanks and Christopher Walken. Mixes gunslingers and gangsters  in a Prohbition era old west town. I can't recall if it was good or bad.

Last Man Standing is with Bruce Willis - It's a remake of Yojimbo basically.
Road to Perdition is the Tom Hanks Prohibition-Era movie.

Edit: Ninja'd by Mace Windu :D
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Dumarest

Okay, that Last Man Standing I've heard of. Wasn't Karina Lombard in it? Haven't seen it. Got bad reviews at the time. Is it as good as Hudson Hawk?

Aglondir

Quote from: CRKrueger;1020824Last Man Standing is with Bruce Willis - It's a remake of Yojimbo basically.
Road to Perdition is the Tom Hanks Prohibition-Era movie.
Yup, Willis. I got the two confused. Corrected the post.

Quote from: DumarestIs it as good as Hudson Hawk?
Nothing is as good as Hudson Hawk!

CausticJedi

Quote from: Dumarest;1020828Okay, that Last Man Standing I've heard of. Wasn't Karina Lombard in it? Haven't seen it. Got bad reviews at the time. Is it as good as Hudson Hawk?
Oh, no.  Not as good, though it's a well-done twist on the standard western/action adventure movie IMO.

Omega

Theres also the apparently short lived Bronchosaurus Rex, whish was cowboys and dinosaurs on an alien planet.

And the Tyranosaurus Tex and Big Lizzie mini adventures in Dragon and Space Gamer respectively for Boot Hill and Western.

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Quote from: Krimson;1020769I couldn't say alt because quite a few movies with Clint Eastwood had comedy elements. That said, I would totally classify the war movie Kelly's Heroes as alt-western, because it pretty much was.

Yeah, it's easy to forget, given his modern image, that Eastwood starred in comedy-westerns.
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Some historians have drawn analogies between the northern and westward expansion of China in the 17th and 18th Centuries and the westward expansion of the US. In both cases, a powerful, urbanized and organized state expanding into areas dominated by nomadic or semi-nomadic peoples of very different ethnicities, sometimes to the point of wiping out the latter.

You can also find (journalistic) articles talking about present-day western China (e.g., Xinjiang) being a "wild west", with Han Chinese flooding in to exploit minerals and clamping down on restless natives, e.g.:

http://theweek.com/articles/703698/chinas-wild-west


A Japanese analogy might be the conquest/assimilation of Hokkaido in the 18th and 19th Centuries (where desire for control of gold mines was one of the motivating factors). I haven't seen it, but there was a recent Japanese remake of the Clint Eastwood Western Unforgiven, set in 1880s Hokkaido (which lets you mix six-guns and katanas, if that appeals to you):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaoYoXdBZLc

Omega

and there is also I believe the Japanese movie Yojimbo which has either a cowboy mercenary or just someone with a pistol. Havent seen it in a loooong time.

Spinachcat

Post-apocalyptic games seem to feel very Western to me.

Spinachcat

Quote from: Keysh;1022231(which lets you mix six-guns and katanas, if that appeals to you):

a) That sounds AWESOME!

b) Welcome to theRPGsite!!

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Quote from: Keysh;1022231Some historians have drawn analogies between the northern and westward expansion of China in the 17th and 18th Centuries and the westward expansion of the US. In both cases, a powerful, urbanized and organized state expanding into areas dominated by nomadic or semi-nomadic peoples of very different ethnicities, sometimes to the point of wiping out the latter.

Though with a very different relationship with those nomadic peoples - since they were a known quantity and there were times historically when those same peoples had wiped out large groups of the former.

Keysh

Quote from: Omega;1022338and there is also I believe the Japanese movie Yojimbo which has either a cowboy mercenary or just someone with a pistol. Havent seen it in a loooong time.

It's the latter -- about halfway through the movie, one of the main bad guys returns to the village from a visit to the big city with a new toy: a Western pistol.

Of course, Yojimbo was the inspiration for the first Sergio Leone spaghetti Western: A Fistful of Dollars, with Clint Eastwood playing the Toshiro Mifune role. (I remember reading an interview with Eastwood in which he mentioned going to see Yojimbo in a cinema in L.A., and thinking afterwards that the story would work pretty well in an Old West setting. And then a year or two later he gets a casting call for A Fistful of Dollars...)