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Author Topic: Welp, unsurprisingly...  (Read 2968 times)

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Welp, unsurprisingly...
« on: February 02, 2023, 06:08:12 PM »
Zweihander related. Woke garbage getting temporarily smashed....I hope it becomes permanent and danny boy is no more. He's that blood boil on RPG gaming's ass.

https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/andrews-mcmeel-shuts-down-rpg-division-zweihander-into-the-mother-lands/

I must congratulate the company for coming to their senses.
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Re: Welp, unsurprisingly...
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2023, 06:41:42 PM »
Oh, no!

Well, anyway...

I'm guessing it was SO profitable that they decided to close it.
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Re: Welp, unsurprisingly...
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2023, 09:10:20 PM »
Good riddance is all I can really say!  ;D
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Re: Welp, unsurprisingly...
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2023, 10:35:20 PM »
Does anyone know the full story?

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Andrews McMeel Publishing has reportedly shuttered its RPG division...
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There were signs that a change in Andrews McMeel was coming - Fox announced that he would be leaving the company at the end of last year...
Why did he quit?





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Re: Welp, unsurprisingly...
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2023, 10:38:21 PM »
Yeah I'm more curious as to the reason. Not that I'm shedding any tears for Zweihander (never cared for it), but I thought these games were profitable.

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Re: Welp, unsurprisingly...
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2023, 12:07:57 AM »
Sounds like the usual issue with rpg publishing, big splash on release, long tail.
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Re: Welp, unsurprisingly...
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2023, 05:16:43 AM »
I find it ironic that Andrews McMeel decided to breach contract with a Black writer, right at the beginning of Black History Month, while promoting an RPG by a White writer on their front page called #Blackbirds (which BTW is well worth checking out).

Folks in this industry always seem surprised to discover that even the most successful RPGs are but blips in comparison to the other titles typical book publishers put out. D&D and Pathfinder are the only two exceptions, each for very different reasons. And we'll be experiencing the D20 glut 2.0 very shortly as every 3rd party publisher and their dog puts out their own D&D fantasy heartbreaker. And you can bet folks will be making their decisions based on the politics of the publisher rather than the quality of the game, and shaming the folks who play the wrong one.

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Re: Welp, unsurprisingly...
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2023, 10:43:34 AM »
Who would have thought thst a company promoting woke virtue signaling products while probably telling those who have different opinions from them thst they don’t want those gamers money would fail. I’m sure no one saw it coming.

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Re: Welp, unsurprisingly...
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2023, 04:39:01 PM »
Sounds like they made a deal with the devil and were smart enough to squash it.  Into the Mother Lands?  Lol.

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Re: Welp, unsurprisingly...
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2023, 09:29:32 PM »
What is the compelling reason to play Zweihander if I have Warhammer FRP (2nd edition)? Seriously asking. Not that I care to give that fuckface any money, though.
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Re: Welp, unsurprisingly...
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2023, 04:36:12 AM »
What is the compelling reason to play Zweihander if I have Warhammer FRP (2nd edition)? Seriously asking. Not that I care to give that fuckface any money, though.

None. Nothing.

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Re: Welp, unsurprisingly...
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2023, 06:33:48 AM »
What is the compelling reason to play Zweihander if I have Warhammer FRP (2nd edition)? Seriously asking. Not that I care to give that fuckface any money, though.

I would gladly give away my mint copy of Zweihander for the battered old copy of WFRP-2e that disappeared sometime after I went off to University 30 years ago.

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Re: Welp, unsurprisingly...
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2023, 08:51:22 AM »
Does anyone know the full story?

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Andrews McMeel Publishing has reportedly shuttered its RPG division...
Why did they stop?

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There were signs that a change in Andrews McMeel was coming - Fox announced that he would be leaving the company at the end of last year...
Why did he quit?

That’s easy.  Same reason for most business decisions.  Money. 

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Re: Welp, unsurprisingly...
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2023, 06:18:39 AM »
What is the compelling reason to play Zweihander if I have Warhammer FRP (2nd edition)? Seriously asking. Not that I care to give that fuckface any money, though.

I would gladly give away my mint copy of Zweihander for the battered old copy of WFRP-2e that disappeared sometime after I went off to University 30 years ago.

I still have my old copy of the original WHFRP. Not sure if it is the GW version or the Hogshead version? Think they were identical? Good ol days back before GW went insane. I miss getting to talk with the designers. For some reason they liked my little game and were always friendly at GenCon before GW pulled them off that.

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Re: Welp, unsurprisingly...
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2023, 01:07:56 PM »
What is the compelling reason to play Zweihander if I have Warhammer FRP (2nd edition)? Seriously asking. Not that I care to give that fuckface any money, though.

There really wasn't one... Zweihander is a convoluted and bloated mess and the background lore is a poor copy of WFRPs.

I think it only gained traction because people were waiting for another edition of WFRP but it didn't happen for ages so this kind of filled a niche (I think it was called grim and perilous back then).

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