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Welp, unsurprisingly...

Started by Jason Coplen, February 02, 2023, 06:08:12 PM

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GeekyBugle

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February 06, 2023, 04:48:35 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on February 06, 2023, 01:07:56 PM
Quote from: Brad on February 04, 2023, 09:29:32 PM
What is the compelling reason to play Zweihander if I have Warhammer FRP (2nd edition)? Seriously asking. Not that I care to give that fuckface any money, though.

There really wasn't one... Zweihander is a convoluted and bloated mess and the background lore is a poor copy of WFRPs.

I think it only gained traction because people were waiting for another edition of WFRP but it didn't happen for ages so this kind of filled a niche (I think it was called grim and perilous back then).

So much so there's a Spanish game trying to fill that niche years before Daniel Fox dreamed of his.

Warhammer Reforged

The designers claim to have fixed lots of stuff, don't remember if it's 2e plus fixes or what.

Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

PencilBoy99

#16
February 06, 2023, 06:49:30 PM
I'm on session 4 of running a game using the system. It actually seems pretty solid. It's crunchier than I would like but I think they're simplifying it in new releases. I love WFRP 2e. I bought all of the WFRP 4e and it is simpler than that (to run at least)

Rob Necronomicon

#17
February 06, 2023, 09:10:48 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on February 06, 2023, 04:48:35 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on February 06, 2023, 01:07:56 PM
Quote from: Brad on February 04, 2023, 09:29:32 PM
What is the compelling reason to play Zweihander if I have Warhammer FRP (2nd edition)? Seriously asking. Not that I care to give that fuckface any money, though.

There really wasn't one... Zweihander is a convoluted and bloated mess and the background lore is a poor copy of WFRPs.

I think it only gained traction because people were waiting for another edition of WFRP but it didn't happen for ages so this kind of filled a niche (I think it was called grim and perilous back then).

So much so there's a Spanish game trying to fill that niche years before Daniel Fox dreamed of his.

Warhammer Reforged

The designers claim to have fixed lots of stuff, don't remember if it's 2e plus fixes or what.

I'd like to check out that Spanish version but I don't speak the language unfortuntely. Fox lost the plot with Zweihander it ended up being a big mess unlike the original.

All that was really needed was a  bit of tweaking on V1 or V2 and it would have been great.

The latest C7 version has its faults as well. So I think it's a bit meh overall but it's better than Zwaihander imo.

Attack-minded and dangerously so - W.E. Fairbairn.
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Wrath of God

#18
February 07, 2023, 10:18:10 PM
QuoteWhat is the compelling reason to play Zweihander if I have Warhammer FRP (2nd edition)? Seriously asking. Not that I care to give that fuckface any money, though.

There are some interesting concepts - like Peril - mental equivalent of Wounds, few interesting professions not copy-cated from WHFRP, grim faeries, so I can see myself fishing some ideas for Warhammer or other dark fantasy settings. But as whole, it seems to repair no problems of 2e, and add massive bloat.

QuoteSo much so there's a Spanish game trying to fill that niche years before Daniel Fox dreamed of his.

Warhammer Reforged

The designers claim to have fixed lots of stuff, don't remember if it's 2e plus fixes or what.

Is there English language version?

"Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon."

"And I will strike down upon thee
With great vengeance and furious anger"

"Molti Nemici, Molto Onore"

GeekyBugle

#19
February 08, 2023, 12:50:14 AM
Quote from: Wrath of God on February 07, 2023, 10:18:10 PM
QuoteWhat is the compelling reason to play Zweihander if I have Warhammer FRP (2nd edition)? Seriously asking. Not that I care to give that fuckface any money, though.

There are some interesting concepts - like Peril - mental equivalent of Wounds, few interesting professions not copy-cated from WHFRP, grim faeries, so I can see myself fishing some ideas for Warhammer or other dark fantasy settings. But as whole, it seems to repair no problems of 2e, and add massive bloat.

QuoteSo much so there's a Spanish game trying to fill that niche years before Daniel Fox dreamed of his.

Warhammer Reforged

The designers claim to have fixed lots of stuff, don't remember if it's 2e plus fixes or what.

Is there English language version?

Not that I know about.  :(
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Wrath of God

#20
February 08, 2023, 01:48:11 PM
although Spanish grammar seems to be relatively simple so maybe translators would work enough to get gist of it
"Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon."

"And I will strike down upon thee
With great vengeance and furious anger"

"Molti Nemici, Molto Onore"

GeekyBugle

#21
February 08, 2023, 01:54:09 PM
Quote from: Wrath of God on February 08, 2023, 01:48:11 PM
although Spanish grammar seems to be relatively simple so maybe translators would work enough to get gist of it

They don't sell it IIRC, it's a free download, a quick web search should turn it up, the name IS correct.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Wrath of God

#22
February 08, 2023, 02:50:43 PM
Thanks.
"Never compromise. Not even in the face of Armageddon."

"And I will strike down upon thee
With great vengeance and furious anger"

"Molti Nemici, Molto Onore"
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