Weapons and Armor Costs

RPGPundit · December 06, 2017, 04:09:21 PM

Quote from: Bren;1010880Ah yes, the Black Knight. Back in the 70s it sometimes seemed some folks gamed just to have an excuse for an unrelenting series of Monty Python quotes.

Back in the 70s?

Bren · December 06, 2017, 04:18:46 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;1011648Back in the 70s?

Yes the 1970s. Specifically the years 1975-1979. Surely you've heard the term before?

mAcular Chaotic · December 06, 2017, 04:24:57 PM

He means people still do it lol

estar · December 06, 2017, 04:30:20 PM

Quote from: RPGPundit;1011648Back in the 70s?

You do know it was released in 1975? Holy Grail quotes in gaming have been around forever.

Bren · December 06, 2017, 04:38:13 PM

Quote from: mAcular Chaotic;1011652He means people still do it lol

If that was his meaning I missed that interpretation. In part because I haven't heard an in-person Monty Python or a Holy Grail joke at a gaming table in decades.

Omega · December 06, 2017, 08:03:05 PM

Theres been tries at adding equipment quality to AD&D and 2e. I think they integrated it better in 2e though.

Also there was some tries at patchwork armour. OA and at least one Dragon article.

Christopher Brady · December 06, 2017, 11:00:02 PM

Quote from: Omega;1011701Theres been tries at adding equipment quality to AD&D and 2e. I think they integrated it better in 2e though.

Also there was some tries at patchwork armour. OA and at least one Dragon article.

The 2e Fighter's Handbook had it, I think. Been a while since I read my copy, I could be wrong.

Willie the Duck · December 06, 2017, 11:34:34 PM

Quote from: Christopher Brady;1011736The 2e Fighter's Handbook had it, I think. Been a while since I read my copy, I could be wrong.

You're not. It's there. kind of a 'select limb, select rough weight of armor, get number. Add up all the numbers to get total armor value.' mechanic. Also had 3 example armors (gladiator armors I think) using said system.

Omega · December 06, 2017, 11:39:16 PM

Quote from: Christopher Brady;1011736The 2e Fighter's Handbook had it, I think. Been a while since I read my copy, I could be wrong.

You are correct.

Piecemeal Armor near the end of the book.
For example a chainmail chest piece, two plate mail arm pieces and 2 banded mail leg pieces would total to AC 5. If you only salvaged one leg piece then AC 4.
Quick simple and seems to work overall. And could be used to replicate partial armours gladiators wore and such.

RPGPundit · December 10, 2017, 05:28:37 AM

Quote from: Bren;1011657If that was his meaning I missed that interpretation. In part because I haven't heard an in-person Monty Python or a Holy Grail joke at a gaming table in decades.

You must hang around with the wrong class of people, then.

Dumarest · December 10, 2017, 12:11:45 PM

Quote from: Omega;1011701Theres been tries at adding equipment quality to AD&D and 2e. I think they integrated it better in 2e though.

Also there was some tries at patchwork armour. OA and at least one Dragon article.

I remember that Dragon, I seem to recall an Elmore cover with girl from Snarfquest...

Dumarest · December 10, 2017, 12:19:39 PM

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;1007790I spent several years painstakingly researching 14th century English prices, for everything from roast sparrows to warhorses.

It turned my players into tomb robbers slaughtering goblins for their shitty swords and pathetic spears, because a handful of pennies kept them alive for another week.

So...several years well spent?

Dumarest · December 10, 2017, 12:21:56 PM

Given that nothing else in D&D has much basis in or relationship to reality, why would the price lists be any different?

Voros · December 10, 2017, 07:09:27 PM

An internally consistent system seems fine, I'm far from an expert but didn't they avtually use barter more than coins in the middle ages anyway?

Dumarest · December 10, 2017, 10:19:36 PM

Quote from: Voros;1012769An internally consistent system seems fine, I'm far from an expert but didn't they avtually use barter more than coins in the middle ages anyway?

See RPGPundit upthread talking about most peasants not having any money at all. I think that was in this thread anyway; there seem to be several in the same vein and I'm losing track.