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We like to break games!

Started by shalvayez, December 09, 2008, 08:38:51 PM

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shalvayez

This is the bragging I received from a couple of schmoes who've been begging me to run D&D for some time now. I haven't run a game in years, and it's bloody likely I'm gonna miss something at some point.
 
 Why would they tell me this?  That kind of behaviour is not going to make me WANT to run a game for them?  
 
Anybody else run into schmucks like this?
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boulet

Out of context it's a bit difficult to understand. They could be just kidding and hint that they prefer a comedy type of game. But yeah it doesn't sounds like the best way to start a brand new game.

jeff37923

Quote from: shalvayez;272479This is the bragging I received from a couple of schmoes who've been begging me to run D&D for some time now. I haven't run a game in years, and it's bloody likely I'm gonna miss something at some point.
 
 Why would they tell me this?  That kind of behaviour is not going to make me WANT to run a game for them?  
 
Anybody else run into schmucks like this?

Yes.

It was a fund-raising 1st Edition d20 Star Wars game. The FLGS owner had medical problems and was forced to sell the store in order to pay for treatment. So we got together and I ran a pay to play game ($1 per PC level per character) in order to raise some money for the owner. I declared that anything published by WotC for the game could be used in the adventure.

Two teens decided that this was their chance to prove that they were the Alpha Gamers in the FLGS and came in with the goal of pissing off every other player at the table. They succeeded, with some of the most broken and twinked out PCs I have ever seen. So after figuring out that their goal was to fuck things up and piss people off, I just blatently killed their PCs whenever the two of them showed up and kept their money.

We raised over $400 for the store owner, about a quarter of that came from the teen twinks.

Later, when the two of them bitched about getting shafted, I let them know that when your idea of fun is pissing everybody else off then shit like that is going to happen.
"Meh."

shalvayez

PC kills came to mind when these guys were talking (one of which is a dear friend, but I digress), but that seems to come off as too obvious. I think they want some realism in the game (such as being able to cap a more experienced NPC with a reasonably explained attack), but in a system that just does not allow for that w/o major tweaking.
 
If I WAS to run a game for these guys, I would probably have to split the NPC's hps into body parts, and adjust accordingly.
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Kyle Aaron

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jeff37923

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;272485Jeff, I hereby award you:-


One of these days, I'm gonna buy myself a Viking Hat.

And I shall wear it with pride.

[rant]

I was a complete asshole to those two twinks and do not feel any guilt over that. The game was our nerdly way of saying goodbye to The Gaming Connection and those fuckers wanted to spoil that for their own fun.

And I'd screw them over again if it happened!

[/rant]
"Meh."

stu2000

I don't know why kids think that's cool.
I have to deal with that now and then.

No mercy, man.

Hangin's too good for 'em.
Burnin's too good for 'em.
They should be torn into itsy bitsy pieces
And buried alive.

Of the kids I've met from this gamer sub-type, only one has ever proven to be the kind that will eventually learn to play well with others. I think it may have to do with computer etiquette kids learn today, or just a congenitally flawed understanding of play.

I don't know . . .
Employment Counselor: So what do you like to do outside of work?
Oblivious Gamer: I like to play games: wargames, role-playing games.
EC: My cousin killed himself because of role-playing games.
OG: Jesus, what was he playing? Rifts?
--Fear the Boot

Tyberious Funk

Quote from: jeff37923;272483Two teens decided that this was their chance to prove that they were the Alpha Gamers in the FLGS and came in with the goal of pissing off every other player at the table. They succeeded, with some of the most broken and twinked out PCs I have ever seen. So after figuring out that their goal was to fuck things up and piss people off, I just blatently killed their PCs whenever the two of them showed up and kept their money.

I've always felt that problems outside of the game shouldn't really be solved by in-game solutions.  For example, if a character does something stupid, then the character dies.  But if the player is a fuck-knuckle, then the player dies.  

So really, you should have stabbed the guys with a mechanical pencil.

It's harsh, but fair.
 

stu2000

Employment Counselor: So what do you like to do outside of work?
Oblivious Gamer: I like to play games: wargames, role-playing games.
EC: My cousin killed himself because of role-playing games.
OG: Jesus, what was he playing? Rifts?
--Fear the Boot

flyingmice

I like to get them to playtest my games.

-clash
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shalvayez

Quote from: flyingmice;272561I like to get them to playtest my games.

-clash

 So....your games are unbreakable?
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flyingmice

Quote from: shalvayez;272667So....your games are unbreakable?

I attempt that. The only way to test it is to let some of these kids have at it.

-clash
clash bowley * Flying Mice Games - an Imprint of Better Mousetrap Games
Flying Mice home page: http://jalan.flyingmice.com/flyingmice.html
Currently Designing: StarCluster 4 - Wavefront Empire
Last Releases: SC4 - Dark Orbital, SC4 - Out of the Ruins,  SC4 - Sabre & World
Blog: I FLY BY NIGHT

Jaeger

Quote from: shalvayez;272667So....your games are unbreakable?

No, so they will break his new game six ways from sunday.

This way he will know what to adjust/fix, to make his games less prone to munchkinism.

 Having someone specifically set out to break your system during playtesting is a good way to uncover game -breaking flaws - because if there are any there, they will find them.


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flyingmice

Quote from: Jaeger;272679No, so they will break his new game six ways from sunday.

This way he will know what to adjust/fix, to make his games less prone to munchkinism.

 Having someone specifically set out to break your system during playtesting is a good way to uncover game -breaking flaws - because if there are any there, they will find them.


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Exactly, Jaeger!

-clash
clash bowley * Flying Mice Games - an Imprint of Better Mousetrap Games
Flying Mice home page: http://jalan.flyingmice.com/flyingmice.html
Currently Designing: StarCluster 4 - Wavefront Empire
Last Releases: SC4 - Dark Orbital, SC4 - Out of the Ruins,  SC4 - Sabre & World
Blog: I FLY BY NIGHT

One Horse Town

Quote from: flyingmice;272685Exactly, Jaeger!

-clash

Oh Shit! :D