We can haz Chainmail now!

Krimson · January 23, 2017, 03:25:00 PM

Perhaps but there are times when you really just want to have a military campaign without having to worry about being in character. This could be particularly useful playing online via virtual tabletop where you want to make your game time as efficient as possible.

RunningLaser · January 23, 2017, 03:33:41 PM

Just bought this.

Gronan of Simmerya · January 23, 2017, 04:27:22 PM

Quote from: Krimson;942190Perhaps but there are times when you really just want to have a military campaign without having to worry about being in character. This could be particularly useful playing online via virtual tabletop where you want to make your game time as efficient as possible.

So... a set of wargame rules would be great for a wargame!

AsenRG · January 24, 2017, 02:44:08 AM

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;942209So... a set of wargame rules would be great for a wargame!

:eek:
Who would have thought:D!

Krimson · January 24, 2017, 09:55:39 AM

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;942209So... a set of wargame rules would be great for a wargame!

Well yes. I haven't tried Chainmail. I've only been playing since '86. And in the event you do want to talk in funny voice and play make believe pretend people, the option is there.

Larsdangly · January 24, 2017, 10:23:23 AM

If you haven't played chainmail in particular you should give it a try some afternoon. It is quite different from other war games. It play s a lot more like relatively recent table top skirmish games (Mordheim, etc.)

thedungeondelver · January 24, 2017, 01:01:13 PM

We can also haz AD&D now: the 3 core rulebooks are print-on-demand!

http://initiativeone.blogspot.com/p/print-on-demand-tsr-products.html

Larsdangly · January 24, 2017, 01:25:25 PM

Cool! Although, I think anyone who doesn't own a nice crisp original copies of these three books deep-down hates the hobby, themselves, and everything else in the universe.

Gronan of Simmerya · January 28, 2017, 02:23:34 PM

Quote from: estar;941566Having fought in the SCA when it comes to medieval battles, melees are about the formation. If you don't fight in your formation properly you die. It that simple. It why most deaths in medieval battles occur during the retreat. With organized formations gone it a field day for the winners.

I agree with you completely, and so does most of history. Really, formation matters even in groups as small as five or six.

I think a big part of it is that people don't WANT to play that way; movies where the protagonists are in battle usually show it as a series of one on one fights with extras milling around in the background, and that's what players want. More like a superhero comic book than what I picture a medieval battle or skirmish being like.

RunningLaser · January 28, 2017, 02:43:48 PM

Quote from: thedungeondelver;942373We can also haz AD&D now: the 3 core rulebooks are print-on-demand!

http://initiativeone.blogspot.com/p/print-on-demand-tsr-products.html

Does anyone know if they fixed that error with the reprints? Some numeral 1's were getting reprinted at 7's or some such?

darthfozzywig · January 28, 2017, 02:49:35 PM

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;942981I agree with you completely, and so does most of history. Really, formation matters even in groups as small as five or six.

True.

Folks start worrying about tactics and flanks when you give them something to worry about.

Most players will figure this out shortly after your monsters start using realistic tactics themselves. Or when then their dashing young hero gets his dashing brains dashed out by the mob surrounding him.

RunningLaser · January 28, 2017, 03:28:27 PM

I think that there's a great number of people who play rpg's and wargames that don't know much if anything about tactics. I am one of those people....

Christopher Brady · January 28, 2017, 08:36:24 PM

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;942981I agree with you completely, and so does most of history. Really, formation matters even in groups as small as five or six.

I hate this statement. It's amazing blind to one MAJOR fact. Most of the Formations are formed with SIMILAR types of soldiery. The average (modern) adventuring party is so disparate that formation fighting is useless. You need a select group of swordsmen, pikemen or archers, but a single soldier, a thief, magic-user and priest, and a doubling up of maybe a fighter or rogue or two, still not going to be a very good formation. Especially given the mechanical disparity between some of the classes.

Opaopajr · January 29, 2017, 03:25:44 AM

That's where bards come in!

AsenRG · January 29, 2017, 05:41:07 AM

Quote from: Christopher Brady;943010I hate this statement. It's amazing blind to one MAJOR fact. Most of the Formations are formed with SIMILAR types of soldiery. The average (modern) adventuring party is so disparate that formation fighting is useless. You need a select group of swordsmen, pikemen or archers, but a single soldier, a thief, magic-user and priest, and a doubling up of maybe a fighter or rogue or two, still not going to be a very good formation. Especially given the mechanical disparity between some of the classes.

There are more formations under the Sun, Cupcake, than your philosophy teaches.