Video: There is no "D&D Community", Just a Marketing Scheme by Hasbro & SJW Entryism

[Ewan]

The fact people need a book to tell them to not be jerks to other people is a sad comment on our species.

Why is it sad?
What would you prefer? People never taught any values at all? How would that even be possible? Feral children? Raised by robots?

Or is it just that you think transmission of values and formation of morals and character should be entirely oral? No texts at all? No moral ideas present in any written media?

I'm not sure I understand hostility toward a religious tradition on account of it possessing sacred texts.

I'm genuinely puzzled. Of course I don't seriously think you mean that feral kids or robot nannies are really the way to go, but your apparent opposition to texts containing moral ideas does really surprise me.

[Krimson]

Why is it sad?
What would you prefer? People never taught any values at all? How would that even be possible? Feral children? Raised by robots?

Or is it just that you think transmission of values and formation of morals and character should be entirely oral? No texts at all? No moral ideas present in any written media?

I'm not sure I understand hostility toward a religious tradition on account of it possessing sacred texts.

I'm genuinely puzzled. Of course I don't seriously think you mean that feral kids or robot nannies are really the way to go, but your apparent opposition to texts containing moral ideas does really surprise me.

For one, the magic book written by primitive dead people doesn't work. Jesus spoke about divorce and people who get them right in the Sermon on the Mount, and that doesn't stop people from electing adulterers into office while pretending to be Christian. Greed isn't just a sin, it's a Deadly Sin, but that doesn't stop people from putting profits over people. Gluttony is another Deadly Sin, but they doesn't stop people from stuffing their faces and sitting on their asses. Most biblical dietary law is reactionary and probably based on stuff that caused food poisoning, such as improperly cooked shellfish and pork.

And yes, you shouldn't need a book to know that not being an asshole tends to make the people you interact with more cooperative.

[Ewan]

For one, the magic book written by primitive dead people doesn't work. Jesus spoke about divorce and people who get them right in the Sermon on the Mount, and that doesn't stop people from electing adulterers into office while pretending to be Christian. Greed isn't just a sin, it's a Deadly Sin, but that doesn't stop people from putting profits over people. Gluttony is another Deadly Sin, but they doesn't stop people from stuffing their faces and sitting on their asses. Most biblical dietary law is reactionary and probably based on stuff that caused food poisoning, such as improperly cooked shellfish and pork.

And yes, you shouldn't need a book to know that not being an asshole tends to make the people you interact with more cooperative.

 'Magic book' 'primitive dead people.'

Okay...

Militant atheism, presentism in an extreme form, and more than a bit of misanthropy.

I can see we won't get anywhere. Forget I asked.

[Ratman_tf]

For one, the magic book written by primitive dead people doesn't work. Jesus spoke about divorce and people who get them right in the Sermon on the Mount, and that doesn't stop people from electing adulterers into office while pretending to be Christian. Greed isn't just a sin, it's a Deadly Sin, but that doesn't stop people from putting profits over people. Gluttony is another Deadly Sin, but they doesn't stop people from stuffing their faces and sitting on their asses. Most biblical dietary law is reactionary and probably based on stuff that caused food poisoning, such as improperly cooked shellfish and pork.

Saying the book doesn't "work" because people still "sin" is foolish. The point of it all is that people do sin, and fall short of their principles. Like any human since we started banging rocks together. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try.

And yes, you shouldn't need a book to know that not being an asshole tends to make the people you interact with more cooperative.

And yet there have been books written about such topics for thousands of years. It's a good idea to explore the problems of ethics, and learn what our ancestors thought about the subject. Even if you're not a believer in religion [X].

[Krimson]

And my apologies. I totally thought I was replying to a post in Punditry.

[Ewan]

And my apologies. I totally thought I was replying to a post in Punditry.

 We both got off track, and it's certainly my fault too.

[Krimson]

We both got off track, and it's certainly my fault too.

Yeah I'll try and be more careful. I didn't mean to violate the rules like that. *waits for banhammer*

[Ewan]

I should add that I have no problem at all with Krimson.

We both used a bit of sarcasm and humor in our posts. We just strongly disagree about something tangential to the thread topic.

[Ewan]

Yeah I'll try and be more careful. I didn't mean to violate the rules like that. *waits for banhammer*

I think we are probably okay, dude. But if you want me to edit or delete a post, let me know. I didn't take personal offense at anything you had written. We just differ sharply on something that isn't even about gaming. No biggie.

[Krimson]

I think we are probably okay, dude. But if you want me to edit or delete a post, let me know. I didn't take personal offense at anything you had written. We just differ sharply on something that isn't even about gaming. No biggie.

I'd delete my post but more than one person quoted it. Ah well, I'll leave it up to Pundit.

[Ewan]

I'd delete my post but more than one person quoted it. Ah well, I'll leave it up to Pundit.

 I expect it won't be an issue, but it's not my forum.
If you get banned and I don't, I'll resign, just to be fair. You wouldn't have posted all you did If I hadn't posted.


Shall we both try to get the thread back on track?

[Krimson]

I expect it won't be an issue, but it's not my forum.
If you get banned and I don't, I'll resign, just to be fair. You wouldn't have posted all you did If I hadn't posted.


Shall we both try to get the thread back on track?

Ah don't do that. It was my fault.

[Gronan of Simmerya]

For one, the magic book written by primitive dead people doesn't work. Jesus spoke about divorce and people who get them right in the Sermon on the Mount, and that doesn't stop people from electing adulterers into office while pretending to be Christian. Greed isn't just a sin, it's a Deadly Sin, but that doesn't stop people from putting profits over people. Gluttony is another Deadly Sin, but they doesn't stop people from stuffing their faces and sitting on their asses. Most biblical dietary law is reactionary and probably based on stuff that caused food poisoning, such as improperly cooked shellfish and pork.

And yes, you shouldn't need a book to know that not being an asshole tends to make the people you interact with more cooperative.

Hey, you know what?

Fuck you to death with a fence post in the ass, that's what.  If you can't express your lack of belief in terms other than "magic book written by primitive dead people" you are not worth wasting my time on.

Son of a bitch.  I had deleted my Ignore List and tried to make a point of not using it any more.

Oh, and here's a hint for the stupid:  Think of the insult to my wife, an ordained minister, in your little oral diarrhea.

[Ewan]

Not anymore, we used to.  But I personally have a deal with my local game store to help subsidize the costs.

Cool.

Do you see signs of SJW influence in the Adventurers League? Or is it just people playing D&D at game stores and hobby shops, without real life political stuff intruding?

[Christopher Brady]

Hey, you know what?

Fuck you to death with a fence post in the ass, that's what.  If you can't express your lack of belief in terms other than "magic book written by primitive dead people" you are not worth wasting my time on.

Son of a bitch.  I had deleted my Ignore List and tried to make a point of not using it any more.

Oh, and here's a hint for the stupid:  Think of the insult to my wife, an ordained minister, in your little oral diarrhea.

Completely off topic, I find Atheists spouting that sort of rhetoric amusing, as they completely gloss over the fact that most Western law and morality systems are based upon religious instruction, good and bad.  Our laws against murder, adultery, sex, theft and others were codified in those 'magic books' and we still use them today.  Yes, they've been modified to fit the times, but the concepts are still there.  Separation of Church and State doesn't exist, never has.

Believe in it or not, it still has a massive influence on everything we do.

Including our gaming styles and choices, even if we go against them or not.

Cool.

Do you see signs of SJW influence in the Adventurers League? Or is it just people playing D&D at game stores and hobby shops, without real life political stuff intruding?

Here's the thing, I'm Canadian, so this whole American Election thing is mostly an amusement as frankly, we're not going to see any of the political ramifications of what 2016 did for at least 20 years (Americans are still dealing with stuff caused during the Reagan years.  'Trickle down' economics anyone?) That said, AL is changing hands in about a month.  However, other than comments on what happened to a certain MTG player who has a Youtube channel, we try to avoid anything political.  

Actually no, I'm wrong.  Some of the politics HAS bled into AL.  The fucking X card.  I hate that thing.  I fully expect a speshul snowflake pop that fucker during a session any time now.  We've been lucky that anyone who may have felt 'offended' played one session and left (Although that is a supposition, I have no evidence of that, life might have simply prevented their return), but I fully expect it to destroy us one day.  We're supposed to be adults or at least mature enough to know that this is a family environment so we're supposed to be welcoming and accepting, but now we have this thing, this stupid, idiotic thing that's there because the Lefties think we can't be responsible and caring enough to not need a sign waving in our faces.

So yes, it HAS affected AL, but most people don't see it because it doesn't LOOK all that important.