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Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« on: May 14, 2022, 03:35:10 AM »
So Venger Satanis has had his latest book suspended because of "offensive" political content. But meanwhile, the other side's content on the exact same issue is allowed!
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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2022, 07:11:48 AM »
Good vid!

Okay, I'm not going to go down the political black hole again, and it's safe to say that everyone knows my pro-abortion stance within the 12-week time period.

That said, NO GAMING MATERIAL SHOULD BE BANNED (even temporarily) even if I or anyone else disagrees with the message. It's only an elf game for fucks sake.

Plus I want the product now I like Venger's stuff.
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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2022, 10:22:38 AM »
Thanks. Please share the video!
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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2022, 10:57:05 AM »
Thanks. Please share the video!

Will do!
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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2022, 11:52:28 AM »

Thanks for making the video, Pundit.  BTW, I'm not a pro-life absolutist, and happy to talk compromise and exceptions... rape, incest, life of the mother, etc.

The cover art is the only illustration in the PDF.  It's 8 pages long (including the cover and credits at the end), so not a ton of content to go through.  Unfortunately, everyone at DriveThruRPG has gone home for the weekend.  They will review it this coming week and make a decision.

The Cha'alt adventure in question is called The Good Syma'arian.  If anyone has additional questions, just ask!

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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2022, 03:49:00 PM »
So Venger Satanis has had his latest book suspended because of "offensive" political content.

If you make an adventure where slavers are the bad guys, that is not political.
If you make an adventure where a lecherous nobleman is the bad guy, that is not political.
If you make an adventure where a greedy corporation is the bad guy, that is not political.

Yet if your bad guy is a baby-killing death cult, suddenly you are inserting politics into RPGs. These bannings are working because they force RPG creators to self-censor their products to avoid offending leftists, all under the guise of "avoiding politics in RPGs."

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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2022, 05:23:14 PM »
So Venger Satanis has had his latest book suspended because of "offensive" political content.

If you make an adventure where slavers are the bad guys, that is not political.
If you make an adventure where a lecherous nobleman is the bad guy, that is not political.
If you make an adventure where a greedy corporation is the bad guy, that is not political.

Yet if your bad guy is a baby-killing death cult, suddenly you are inserting politics into RPGs. These bannings are working because they force RPG creators to self-censor their products to avoid offending leftists, all under the guise of "avoiding politics in RPGs."

You made some good points.  Of course, I went out of my way to let customers know what they were getting... an unapologetic anti-abortion themed adventure.

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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2022, 06:44:19 PM »
Since I dont want to watch the video, can someone break the issue down into its fine points?

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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2022, 12:41:57 AM »
Bad Venger! Satire was outlawed years ago!

No surprise DriveThru censored his adventure. Surprised they haven't nuked Venger and RPGPundit completely years ago.

BTW, if anybody wants to support Venger AssNasty Satanis AND get a truly awesome book, buy this one ASAP:
https://www.amazon.com/Islands-Purple-Haunted-Putrescence-Venger-Satanis/dp/1500121592

Easily one of my favorite creations of the OSR age.

As for the "controversy", I'm pro-secession and pro-states rights, so my only Roe concern is that (a) the people of each state get to decide their own abortion laws, and (b) that the issue becomes even more divisive and Red vs. blue states segregate further culturally.

 

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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2022, 01:03:14 AM »
This surprises anyone at this point?

Venger. Have you tried contacting them and asking what specifically the charges were? It could be those false claims BGG was tossing around? Or any number of others. Could be easy to sort out. But if the site itself is gunning for you then well not much can do unless want to go the lawsuit route.

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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2022, 02:44:07 AM »
Too bad you're not in Texas.  This might be covered by their new anti-censorship laws.

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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2022, 08:49:42 AM »
How is a baby-killing death cult political? Isn’t that just the worship of Moloch?

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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2022, 08:54:02 AM »

Thanks for making the video, Pundit.  BTW, I'm not a pro-life absolutist, and happy to talk compromise and exceptions... rape, incest, life of the mother, etc.

The cover art is the only illustration in the PDF.  It's 8 pages long (including the cover and credits at the end), so not a ton of content to go through.  Unfortunately, everyone at DriveThruRPG has gone home for the weekend.  They will review it this coming week and make a decision.

The Cha'alt adventure in question is called The Good Syma'arian.  If anyone has additional questions, just ask!

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Well, keep us updated.
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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2022, 08:57:18 PM »
This surprises anyone at this point?

Venger. Have you tried contacting them and asking what specifically the charges were? It could be those false claims BGG was tossing around? Or any number of others. Could be easy to sort out. But if the site itself is gunning for you then well not much can do unless want to go the lawsuit route.

You can read the "suspension email" right here on this blog post: https://vengersatanis.blogspot.com/2022/05/the-good-symaarian-suspended.html

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Re: Venger Satanis Book Facing Censorship, Again
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2022, 10:45:30 PM »
Hope it gets reinstated, VS. Sorry to hear you've got to go through these hoops.