The last time I checked...
DTRPG was 30% for exclusive and 40% for non-exclusive content.
DM Guild is 50% since you are creating/sharing licensed content.
Itch.io uses a slider from zero to 100% and it defaults to 10%.

Quote from: zircher on May 16, 2022, 03:24:11 PM
The last time I checked...
DTRPG was 30% for exclusive and 40% for non-exclusive content.
DM Guild is 50% since you are creating/sharing licensed content.
Itch.io uses a slider from zero to 100% and it defaults to 10%.

I guess DM guild is what I was thinking about, although I think 30 or 50% is too much considering they are simply posting it on their site, server hard drive space is cheap and they had nothing to do with the creation of the game.

Thanks for the information

DriveThruRPG like Kickstarter have defacto monopolies on their audiences - sure, other sites exist, but publishers will tell you that the monopoly is where 90% of the traffic exists.

I wonder if Venger's adventure would have set off the retard's alarm bells if he hadn't mentioned Roe v Wade and just leaped right into the satire.

"Never explain, never complain" is a good way for authors to move forward in clown world.

Quote from: Spinachcat on May 16, 2022, 06:37:40 PM
DriveThruRPG like Kickstarter have defacto monopolies on their audiences - sure, other sites exist, but publishers will tell you that the monopoly is where 90% of the traffic exists.

I wonder if Venger's adventure would have set off the retard's alarm bells if he hadn't mentioned Roe v Wade and just leaped right into the satire.

"Never explain, never complain" is a good way for authors to move forward in clown world.

What other sites exist?  I only know of drivethrurpg

Quote from: GhostNinja on May 16, 2022, 07:14:26 PM


What other sites exist?  I only know of drivethrurpg

IPR indie press revolution.

There are probably a few more.

Remind me again why someone deciding to get a offended results in content being pulled pending review instead of merely flagged if there is was ToS or legal violation?

Bullshit. This is why businesses need to be apolitical. Otherwise, interacting with a sensitive topic or a contemporary issue is only allowed on the prescribed side of the matter.

Venger mentioned Drivethru was out for the weekend so I have to wonder if anyone has mapped the timing of the complaints? Complain Friday and you could take a product down for 4 days.

Quote from: GhostNinja on May 16, 2022, 07:14:26 PM

Quote from: Spinachcat on May 16, 2022, 06:37:40 PM
DriveThruRPG like Kickstarter have defacto monopolies on their audiences - sure, other sites exist, but publishers will tell you that the monopoly is where 90% of the traffic exists.

I wonder if Venger's adventure would have set off the retard's alarm bells if he hadn't mentioned Roe v Wade and just leaped right into the satire.

"Never explain, never complain" is a good way for authors to move forward in clown world.

What other sites exist?  I only know of drivethrurpg

Lulu, IPR, Itch.io, Warehouse 23, Paizo, Precis Intermedia, Exalted Funeral, a few more. It's pretty thin. There are a few storefronts for print or electronics that happen to carry RPGs, a few niche sites, a few by specific publishers that also carry third party products, and nothing that really competes with the OBS juggernaut. The few attempts, like the publisher cooperative Your Games Now, died.

Quote from: Spinachcat on May 16, 2022, 06:37:40 PM
DriveThruRPG like Kickstarter have defacto monopolies on their audiences - sure, other sites exist, but publishers will tell you that the monopoly is where 90% of the traffic exists.

I wonder if Venger's adventure would have set off the retard's alarm bells if he hadn't mentioned Roe v Wade and just leaped right into the satire.

"Never explain, never complain" is a good way for authors to move forward in clown world.

Indigogo has taken over from KS on comics and slowly doing the same for TTRPG products. Lot's of author's are using 1 or both to funnel $$$ to their products.


Also, did vengar get his product back on the market or not?

Is indiegogo still doing the disaster chasing ass-hat thing where they cold call people and try to suck a percentage off of any incoming charity?  [They did that to me after a tornado hit by.]

Quote from: zircher on May 17, 2022, 02:47:41 PM
Is indiegogo still doing the disaster chasing ass-hat thing where they cold call people and try to suck a percentage off of any incoming charity?  [They did that to me after a tornado hit by.]

i have not seen that type of behavior on the platform so I cannot confirm/deny that.

All my purchases for Necromancer Games, Frog God Games, and several OSR products (Scott Taylor) that are too spicey for KS I back on there without issue.

Quote from: Ruprecht on May 16, 2022, 08:55:52 PM
Venger mentioned Drivethru was out for the weekend so I have to wonder if anyone has mapped the timing of the complaints? Complain Friday and you could take a product down for 4 days.

I asked DriveThru for an update this morning.  I was reminded that it could take up to "two business weeks" for their internal review.  So, maybe next week?

Quote from: VengerSatanis on May 18, 2022, 04:58:05 PM

Quote from: Ruprecht on May 16, 2022, 08:55:52 PM
Venger mentioned Drivethru was out for the weekend so I have to wonder if anyone has mapped the timing of the complaints? Complain Friday and you could take a product down for 4 days.

I asked DriveThru for an update this morning.  I was reminded that it could take up to "two business weeks" for their internal review.  So, maybe next week?

Would it be worth a few of us contacting Drivethru as well?

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 18, 2022, 05:05:45 PM

Quote from: VengerSatanis on May 18, 2022, 04:58:05 PM

Quote from: Ruprecht on May 16, 2022, 08:55:52 PM
Venger mentioned Drivethru was out for the weekend so I have to wonder if anyone has mapped the timing of the complaints? Complain Friday and you could take a product down for 4 days.

I asked DriveThru for an update this morning.  I was reminded that it could take up to "two business weeks" for their internal review.  So, maybe next week?

Would it be worth a few of us contacting Drivethru as well?

If it's in a respectful manner, it might.  I'd probably ask them to confirm that real world harm, such as murder, is worse than imaginary harm in a fantasy world.  So, pro-abortion RPG products are objectively more offensive and destructive than an adventure like The Good Syma'arian which uses a fantasy world context to call out the real world harm happening in abortion clinics across the country. 

If people are too squeamish to hear about children being sacrificed by demons, then how can they support abortion... unless they simply pretend that what's happening isn't actually happening?

Quote from: VengerSatanis on May 19, 2022, 12:01:58 PM

Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on May 18, 2022, 05:05:45 PM

Quote from: VengerSatanis on May 18, 2022, 04:58:05 PM

Quote from: Ruprecht on May 16, 2022, 08:55:52 PM
Venger mentioned Drivethru was out for the weekend so I have to wonder if anyone has mapped the timing of the complaints? Complain Friday and you could take a product down for 4 days.

I asked DriveThru for an update this morning.  I was reminded that it could take up to "two business weeks" for their internal review.  So, maybe next week?

Would it be worth a few of us contacting Drivethru as well?

If it's in a respectful manner, it might.  I'd probably ask them to confirm that real world harm, such as murder, is worse than imaginary harm in a fantasy world.  So, pro-abortion RPG products are objectively more offensive and destructive than an adventure like The Good Syma'arian which uses a fantasy world context to call out the real world harm happening in abortion clinics across the country. 

If people are too squeamish to hear about children being sacrificed by demons, then how can they support abortion... unless they simply pretend that what's happening isn't actually happening?

Your last question there might be a bit specious, though (also, disingenuous, and suggests a lack of engagement with the real issue if you think your analogy applies in reality). And given your prior lines of products, I find your stance on this, well, kind of shocking....who knew!

Either way, I'm in the camp you have the right to publish this, absolutely. But I am also in favor of private businesses stating they have a standard on what they choose to publish. The problem DTRPG faces as I see it is not enforcing that standard consistently and up front. If they did, people could then decide whether or not they want to shop with them based on their clear policies on the matter. Right now their policy appears to be, "look the other way until someone complains and then panic."