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Vampire 5e review... Sounds a bit 'meh'.
« on: August 28, 2018, 11:39:25 AM »
Hello,

Thought I'd post this. GJ did a very good and indepth review of V 5e.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=765JQ06HUx4

Sounds a bit crap as far as I'm concerned. Not that I had high hopes for it anyway.

And no Sabbat? Fuck that!:mad: (well, not detailed in this 400 page rule book). Meh...
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« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2018, 12:07:42 PM »
This review gives me hope that the whole WoD5 will crash and burn before they can get around to ruining Mage with their ideas.

Honestly, the most interesting aspect to me would be that V5 crashes so hard that NuWW cancels any plans for a Werewolf5 or Mage5, which functionally leaves Onyx Path able to produce new content, but only for the non-Vampire lines. I'd be very curious to see what WoD without vampires might look like.

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« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2018, 12:36:39 PM »
I cannot bring myself to care either way. I already found better settings and systems if I ever get the desire to play a vampire game.

If Paradox really cared they would buy back the rights to the video games and remaster or remake. They lack competition because for whatever reason there are very few games with vampire protagonists. The most interesting vampire CRPG of the past decade is an indie dungeon crawler titled Bloodlust: Shadowhunter.

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« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2018, 01:43:26 PM »
V5 sucks balls and I hope it fails.

Fuck NuWW and their love of the shitty metaplot that ruined VTM in the first place.

Seriously, Martin Ericsson is an even bigger hack than Justin Achilli and personal horror sucks as a theme anyway, unless you're some emotionally masochistic Goth or Punk.

The fact that NuWW has radically altered the mechanics to enforce personal horror as the sole theme is another reason I won't buy V5.

1E and 2E were the best editions for Vampire, Revised and V5 suck balls.

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« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2018, 02:33:52 PM »
It's more an overview than a review. The guy doesn't say what the game goals are and if it accomplishes them or not.

I've heard this edition tries to go back to 1e and focus on street level personal horror. Is this true?

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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2018, 02:44:13 PM »
Wait... the players can take control over the game from the GM?...

ruh roh...

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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2018, 02:54:04 PM »
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The fact that NuWW has radically altered the mechanics to enforce personal horror as the sole theme is another reason I won't buy V5.
As someone interested more in personal horror than supers with fangs, you got my interest. How it does it? Does it work?

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« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2018, 03:24:13 PM »
Doc's heating up.

Get him some Waifu-pills stat!!!

Edit: As much as I'd rather see it happen, I think for Paradox to ignore the history of Vampire after all this time would be a commericial mistake in the short-term. I would love to see them re-imagine Vampire with touches of familiar names and ideas without all the baggage.

But that's not gonna happen.
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2018, 03:48:20 PM »
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Doc's heating up.

Get him some Waifu-pills stat!!!

Edit: As much as I'd rather see it happen, I think for Paradox to ignore the history of Vampire after all this time would be a commericial mistake in the short-term. I would love to see them re-imagine Vampire with touches of familiar names and ideas without all the baggage.
Vampire the Requiem says 'hi.'

Seriously, they already tried changing up the mechanics to enforce a personal horror experience. It went over so well that Old White Wolf went out of business and its IP was bought up by Paradox.

It took Onyx Path releasing the "Greatest Hits" inspired V20 that pretty much ignored the entire "Revised" era for a cleaned up 2e with less focus on the metaplot to actually get the Vampire line popular enough again for Paradox to create a NuWW subsidiary and consider making a new edition.

Then NuWW went and made the exact same mistake that killed White Wolf last time. Based on some polling done over at Onyx Path and only about a third of the current VTM players who responded are planning on switching over to V5. It could very well be more divisive for its base than 4E was for D&D.

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« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2018, 04:14:21 PM »
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Vampire the Requiem says 'hi.'

Seriously, they already tried changing up the mechanics to enforce a personal horror experience. It went over so well that Old White Wolf went out of business and its IP was bought up by Paradox.

It took Onyx Path releasing the "Greatest Hits" inspired V20 that pretty much ignored the entire "Revised" era for a cleaned up 2e with less focus on the metaplot to actually get the Vampire line popular enough again for Paradox to create a NuWW subsidiary and consider making a new edition.

Then NuWW went and made the exact same mistake that killed White Wolf last time. Based on some polling done over at Onyx Path and only about a third of the current VTM players who responded are planning on switching over to V5. It could very well be more divisive for its base than 4E was for D&D.
So the Vampire fan base actually prefer Supers with Fangs instead of personal horror? Interesting. Shouldn't Paradox just make Vampire like fans want and release a new IP for personal horror or something?

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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2018, 04:24:12 PM »
Any written reviews yet? Video reviews make me chew on the screen.

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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2018, 04:45:47 PM »
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Vampire the Requiem says 'hi.'

Seriously, they already tried changing up the mechanics to enforce a personal horror experience. It went over so well that Old White Wolf went out of business and its IP was bought up by Paradox.

It took Onyx Path releasing the "Greatest Hits" inspired V20 that pretty much ignored the entire "Revised" era for a cleaned up 2e with less focus on the metaplot to actually get the Vampire line popular enough again for Paradox to create a NuWW subsidiary and consider making a new edition.

Then NuWW went and made the exact same mistake that killed White Wolf last time. Based on some polling done over at Onyx Path and only about a third of the current VTM players who responded are planning on switching over to V5. It could very well be more divisive for its base than 4E was for D&D.


This guy gets it.

Even the whiny Goths and Punks at Onyx Path Forums generally hate V5. I know, I'm a regular at Onyx Path Forums (my handle there is Camilla)

Thinking of the colossal fuckup that is V5 makes me angry. I better calm myself down with a sixpack of hard cider, a few episodes of Boruto: Naruto Next Generations, and maybe a bit of weed if I still have any gummies left.
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2018, 05:30:50 PM »
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This review gives me hope that the whole WoD5 will crash and burn before they can get around to ruining Mage with their ideas.

I'm with you there... Seems that even some people, on the big purple, are not too impressed or at least moaning about it.

I've not read the pdf myself, but if GJs review is accurate (which I'm sure it is) then by the sounds of it V5 'aint my thing at all. I've got everything I need from the previous editions at any rate including the V20 stuff. :)

Oh, and I always cut out their stupid meta-plot that went on to destroy the game.
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« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2018, 05:34:35 PM »
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Any written reviews yet? Video reviews make me chew on the screen.
Yeah this.

I don't want to spend 40 minute listening to something I could probably read in 5-10.

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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2018, 05:41:59 PM »
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Wait... the players can take control over the game from the GM?...

ruh roh...


:eek: I know!!!
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