Quote from: tuypo1;823008i dont know about that im pretty sure treasure planet had them and that was still sci-fi.

Space fantasy, then.

i dont think one could even call treasure planet that

it has been a long time since i have seen the movie though (the gba game was great fun if anybody sees a copy they should check it out)

Quote from: RPGPundit;823003I would think the whole "wooden galleons in space" would be enough to remind one that it's fantasy and not sci-fi.

It would, but I don't think it necessarily would go far enough.

There's really very little way the magic and biology of the D&D game could plausibly exist in a universe built on physical laws more or less identical to our own.  Building an "outer space" and physics around the assumptions of D&D, rather than trying to patch them onto a "realistic" universe, I think really helped break my players out of thinking like moderns and more like denizens of a medieval(ish) worldview.

Plus, they make for fun and interesting tactical scenarios.

Well, to each their own on this one, I guess.  To me it always felt like a distraction.

Quote from: RPGPundit;823641Well, to each their own on this one, I guess.  To me it always felt like a distraction.

Oh I'll go right out and say it: When I first saw Spelljammer and cracked open the boxset and realized it was Galleons in space... I thought it was the most stupid thing ever.

The reality is once you gulp down this notion, galleons specifically are generally used only because theyr'e representative of the cultures that most D&D worlds contain. Spelljamming races that are native to Wildspace have different designs - which most groundling (standard D&D world cultures) upgrade to.

But of course it's how much of it can you stomach. I found once you started playing it made a lot of cohesive sense and turned very much into a Star Wars/Star Trek swashbuckling style game in my hands. Whether that was by intent or the subconscious of my melon... I grudgingly came to love Spelljammer, now I'm an unabashed fan.

But to your point, Pundit - doing a Dragonstar style game sounds very appealing.

Quote from: tenbones;823773Oh I'll go right out and say it: When I first saw Spelljammer and cracked open the boxset and realized it was Galleons in space... I thought it was the most stupid thing ever.

The reality is once you gulp down this notion, galleons specifically are generally used only because theyr'e representative of the cultures that most D&D worlds contain. Spelljamming races that are native to Wildspace have different designs - which most groundling (standard D&D world cultures) upgrade to.

But of course it's how much of it can you stomach. I found once you started playing it made a lot of cohesive sense and turned very much into a Star Wars/Star Trek swashbuckling style game in my hands. Whether that was by intent or the subconscious of my melon... I grudgingly came to love Spelljammer, now I'm an unabashed fan.

But to your point, Pundit - doing a Dragonstar style game sounds very appealing.

interesting

Quote from: tenbones;823773Oh I'll go right out and say it: When I first saw Spelljammer and cracked open the boxset and realized it was Galleons in space... I thought it was the most stupid thing ever.

The reality is once you gulp down this notion, galleons specifically are generally used only because theyr'e representative of the cultures that most D&D worlds contain. Spelljamming races that are native to Wildspace have different designs - which most groundling (standard D&D world cultures) upgrade to.

But of course it's how much of it can you stomach. I found once you started playing it made a lot of cohesive sense and turned very much into a Star Wars/Star Trek swashbuckling style game in my hands. Whether that was by intent or the subconscious of my melon... I grudgingly came to love Spelljammer, now I'm an unabashed fan.

But to your point, Pundit - doing a Dragonstar style game sounds very appealing.

Sort of the same here.  I didn't even look at SJ stuff for years, because I assumed from its subtitle that it was a Dragonstar-like setting.  It wasn't until years later when I found a used copy of the core boxed set and browsed through it that I became a fan.

That said, I think it would work better as a flintlock-fantasy or muskets & magic level of tech than as a default medieval one.  But that's probably just because I'm embroiled in the Powder Mage trilogy right now.

i dont know about rifles but the way i see it if you have ships you need cannons

Okay... totally out of coincidence, my players have asked me to run Spelljammer.

My current campaign hit a weird-spot and my players got together and said "our characters would realistically go their separate ways (/queue Journey), so they propose I run Spelljammer...

And so here we are.

That's what I get for starting this thread...

Quote from: tuypo1;824185i dont know about rifles but the way i see it if you have ships you need cannons

Spelljammer has cannons in the main box.

Quote from: Old One Eye;824517Spelljammer has cannons in the main box.

awesome