https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cypheroftyr/into-the-mother-lands-rpg?ref=section-games-projectcollection-7-staff-picks-category-newest
I like rpgs.....I really do....and I know that rpgs have been made that I know I'll never play and like. But I wonder with the "success" of coyote and crow if we'll see a rash of these. This is supposedly another all PoC created tabletop rpg. And unlike coyote and crow, this setting isn't the "new world" it's just a new world. But I'll be interested to see if there were indigenous peoples on this new world they found and how they were dealt with.
Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on May 25, 2021, 04:52:24 PM
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cypheroftyr/into-the-mother-lands-rpg?ref=section-games-projectcollection-7-staff-picks-category-newest
I like rpgs.....I really do....and I know that rpgs have been made that I know I'll never play and like. But I wonder with the "success" of coyote and crow if we'll see a rash of these. This is supposedly another all PoC created tabletop rpg. And unlike coyote and crow, this setting isn't the "new world" it's just a new world. But I'll be interested to see if there were indigenous peoples on this new world they found and how they were dealt with.
"...But I wonder with the "success" of coyote and crow if we'll see a rash of these..." As the Emperor said once, "It is unavoidable."
Frankly though, the 'all POC created' stinks of a falsehood because looking at that artwork, unless you include Asian folks, which the typical woke types don't unless it's convenient, there's no way this is all POC created.
Plus, if you're talking about a place like this, you can't have conflict unless it's manufactured or the settlements, like in Mass Effect, cover less than a percent of a percent of the planet in question.
Right. The artwork definitely is......one sided
How convienient that medieval Mali people were kidnapped to alien planet inhabited by ... hyeana folk, and not for instance octopus-folk, cucumber-tiger-crow folk or intelligent slime minerals.
The symbol for the afro-futurist bio-priests is a caduceus?
I mean I cannot be sure but as they are descendants of Mali Empire which was islamic state holding relatively regular contacts with Mediterrean world... it's not impossible.
Depends whether Caduceus was used for instance by North African Arab-Berber muslims.
Pity it's not a game about the actual Mali empire. That would have been interesting.
TBH there is preciously little like strictly historical RPGs overall.
Quote from: Wrath of God on May 25, 2021, 07:15:10 PM
TBH there is preciously little like strictly historical RPGs overall.
You could add a little magic that's appropriate to what people believed at the time and you have "Mythic Mali".
Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on May 25, 2021, 04:52:24 PM
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cypheroftyr/into-the-mother-lands-rpg?ref=section-games-projectcollection-7-staff-picks-category-newest
I like rpgs.....I really do....and I know that rpgs have been made that I know I'll never play and like. But I wonder with the "success" of coyote and crow if we'll see a rash of these. This is supposedly another all PoC created tabletop rpg. And unlike coyote and crow, this setting isn't the "new world" it's just a new world. But I'll be interested to see if there were indigenous peoples on this new world they found and how they were dealt with.
This isnt a new idea. Its just dolled up in new buzzwords and new era of greed and outrage marketing. We've seen virtue signal games for 5+ years now. So this is nothing new really either. Just more of the same. And was recently shopping and passed a big bin full of some new drink called BuzzBallz with on the side of the bin read "Woman Owned". Expect to see more of that too in product.
honestly surprised afrofuturist game didn't hit first, movement has the larger following
Quote from: Wrath of God on May 25, 2021, 06:45:34 PM
How convienient that medieval Mali people were kidnapped to alien planet inhabited by ... hyeana folk, and not for instance octopus-folk, cucumber-tiger-crow folk or intelligent slime minerals.
coyote and crow people were bitching about how terrible it is that the game was set on earth and didn't give a lick of thought to yt. game creates setting where yt can't exist bc it's a different planet, complaint is now about convenient furries instead of legit-alien aliens. nice
As a BIPOC transgender Jewish differently-abled woman, I look forward to your support for my groundbreaking new RPG, Dildoes & Dreidels.
Quote from: Zelen on May 25, 2021, 07:58:13 PM
As a BIPOC transgender Jewish differently-abled woman, I look forward to your support for my groundbreaking new RPG, Dildoes & Dreidels.
this is just a hack of bluebeard's bride with each of your tags as a playbook
Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on May 25, 2021, 04:52:24 PM
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cypheroftyr/into-the-mother-lands-rpg?ref=section-games-projectcollection-7-staff-picks-category-newest
I like rpgs.....I really do....and I know that rpgs have been made that I know I'll never play and like. But I wonder with the "success" of coyote and crow if we'll see a rash of these. This is supposedly another all PoC created tabletop rpg. And unlike coyote and crow, this setting isn't the "new world" it's just a new world. But I'll be interested to see if there were indigenous peoples on this new world they found and how they were dealt with.
I say knock yourselves out (regarding the ethnocentric game makers). I am sure white people will buy it to "show support" and then be fucking terrified to play it because they feel they are culturally appropriating, OR as MANY of these LEFTY folk do, dress up in black face and do their best to imitate the scary black people they went to high school with and basically pull a Trudeau in their own little weird groups.
I just laugh, because down the road they have to worry about a pal having taken a picture of a game session (and even just all being white and playing the game they might get into trouble the way the future looks) and being canceled for cultural appropriating, or doing "mental blackface" or some other such shit.
Quote from: oggsmash on May 26, 2021, 09:42:24 AM
I say knock yourselves out (regarding the ethnocentric game makers). I am sure white people will buy it to "show support" and then be fucking terrified to play it because they feel they are culturally appropriating, OR as MANY of these LEFTY folk do, dress up in black face and do their best to imitate the scary black people they went to high school with and basically pull a Trudeau in their own little weird groups.
I just laugh, because down the road they have to worry about a pal having taken a picture of a game session (and even just all being white and playing the game they might get into trouble the way the future looks) and being canceled for cultural appropriating, or doing "mental blackface" or some other such shit.
can't get blackmailed if you take the picture yourself :smartguytappinghead.gif:
this is making me nostalgic for Kindred of the Ebony Kingdoms though
das rite
Quotehonestly surprised afrofuturist game didn't hit first, movement has the larger following
I'm quite sure there are other afrofuturist RPG's out there.
I'm like 88% sure I've seen one.
Quotecoyote and crow people were bitching about how terrible it is that the game was set on earth and didn't give a lick of thought to yt. game creates setting where yt can't exist bc it's a different planet, complaint is now about convenient furries instead of legit-alien aliens. nice
YT? YouTube?
Dunno I have no beef with Coyote and Crew, aside of very probable watering all possible weird preColumbian things down due to evidently PC positions of Coyote makers.
Quote from: Wrath of God on May 26, 2021, 08:32:19 PM
Quotehonestly surprised afrofuturist game didn't hit first, movement has the larger following
I'm quite sure there are other afrofuturist RPG's out there.
I'm like 88% sure I've seen one.Quote
i bet you're right on both counts, oughta look them up on drivethru when I can. must be the Kickstarter visibility driving the mad
In all sincerity I have no problem with there being afrofuturist RPG games, or any other special niche game. The problem boils down to two things:
1. Almost all of these products are weak, appearing on the scene with big red flags. I've done Kickstarters before and we usually prepared for months before launching, and even with that the first question we always got was why our product wasn't more developed. A game whose premise is basically White People Indulgences is grifter bait and this creates a bad set of incentives.
2. The games themselves are mostly embedded bad faith narrative. That's actually not necessarily true. It's entirely possible what we're seeing could be entirely good faith and just about creating something cool and positive -- But is it really? Looking at the actors involved I don't get the impression that this is a good faith effort.
When the underlying presumption at work is White people are bad and things they've created are bad, that's just not something that ought to be supported.
I'm not quite sure what is the issue with this.
It's creating something new, not trying to take over something that already exists.
It has to live or die on it's own merits. So let it.
Quote from: Zelen on May 26, 2021, 10:22:51 PM
In all sincerity I have no problem with there being afrofuturist RPG games, or any other special niche game. The problem boils down to two things:
1. Almost all of these products are weak, appearing on the scene with big red flags. I've done Kickstarters before and we usually prepared for months before launching, and even with that the first question we always got was why our product wasn't more developed. A game whose premise is basically White People Indulgences is grifter bait and this creates a bad set of incentives.
2. The games themselves are mostly embedded bad faith narrative. That's actually not necessarily true. It's entirely possible what we're seeing could be entirely good faith and just about creating something cool and positive -- But is it really? Looking at the actors involved I don't get the impression that this is a good faith effort.
When the underlying presumption at work is White people are bad and things they've created are bad, that's just not something that ought to be supported.
That succinctly encapsulates my concerns, as well.
I'm all for both afrofuturist settings and more opportunities for Black creators in the TTRPG space, but this... man, it's hard to shake the feeling of grift or opportunism with this one.
But hey, more power.
I'd say so far it's more playing "POC good" card than "Wypipo bad" card, but yeah there's a lot of virtue signalling there to fund those RPGs
Honestly this does seem to have some neat ideas. I might read it when it comes out, though I won't back it.
Seeing this reminds me of an Alternate History scenario that I would love to see explored but probably never will: What if Mansa Abu Bakr II's exploratory fleet had discovered South America 200 years before Columbus?
Sadly I don't think we'll ever see that. Depicting People of Color colonizing each other isn't allowed.
Quote from: Torque2100 on May 27, 2021, 03:28:08 PM
Honestly this does seem to have some neat ideas. I might read it when it comes out, though I won't back it.
Seeing this reminds me of an Alternate History scenario that I would love to see explored but probably never will: What if Mansa Abu Bakr II's exploratory fleet had discovered South America 200 years before Columbus?
Sadly I don't think we'll ever see that. Depicting People of Color colonizing each other isn't allowed.
It's an interesting idea but virtually impossible with the kind of ships they had. The most that could have happened was for them to land somewhere and try to eek out a living. No back and forth travel.
Quote from: TJS on May 27, 2021, 02:17:36 AM
I'm not quite sure what is the issue with this.
It's creating something new, not trying to take over something that already exists.
It has to live or die on it's own merits. So let it.
This is a fair point. I suppose it does have to do with an individuals point of view and assuming a content creators motives.
For me though, when I read the "What is this RPG" intro it says this. "Journey into a brighter, blacker future with Into the Mother Lands, a brand-new sci-fi odyssey role-playing game, developed by a fantastic team of POC RPG designers."
It's been hammered by social media that words matter. So what is this intro mean? Should I just take it as it is? Are there any read between the lines type of thing?
I can accept the statement as is, okay. What if someone said "Journey into a brighter, better future with Into the Mother Lands, a brand-new sci-fi odyssey role-playing game, developed by a fantastic team of Caucasian RPG designers."
Is one word more inflammatory than another?
I'll admit the fault could lie with me.
Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on June 16, 2021, 12:55:56 PM
Quote from: TJS on May 27, 2021, 02:17:36 AM
I'm not quite sure what is the issue with this.
It's creating something new, not trying to take over something that already exists.
It has to live or die on it's own merits. So let it.
This is a fair point. I suppose it does have to do with an individuals point of view and assuming a content creators motives.
For me though, when I read the "What is this RPG" intro it says this. "Journey into a brighter, blacker future with Into the Mother Lands, a brand-new sci-fi odyssey role-playing game, developed by a fantastic team of POC RPG designers."
It's been hammered by social media that words matter. So what is this intro mean? Should I just take it as it is? Are there any read between the lines type of thing?
I can accept the statement as is, okay. What if someone said "Journey into a brighter, better future with Into the Mother Lands, a brand-new sci-fi odyssey role-playing game, developed by a fantastic team of Caucasian RPG designers."
Is one word more inflammatory than another?
I'll admit the fault could lie with me.
Racial, sexual discrimination and segregation is A-Okay when THEY do it.
For my part, as a mixed race mongrel married to another mixed race mongrel and father of a mixed race mongrel, I have exactly zero interest in playing Myfarog or the counterpart produced by POC (how I hate that term, where's the difference between it and Colored People?).
In my eyes both games are by racists, for racists.
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 16, 2021, 01:23:24 PM
Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on June 16, 2021, 12:55:56 PM
Quote from: TJS on May 27, 2021, 02:17:36 AM
I'm not quite sure what is the issue with this.
It's creating something new, not trying to take over something that already exists.
It has to live or die on it's own merits. So let it.
This is a fair point. I suppose it does have to do with an individuals point of view and assuming a content creators motives.
For me though, when I read the "What is this RPG" intro it says this. "Journey into a brighter, blacker future with Into the Mother Lands, a brand-new sci-fi odyssey role-playing game, developed by a fantastic team of POC RPG designers."
It's been hammered by social media that words matter. So what is this intro mean? Should I just take it as it is? Are there any read between the lines type of thing?
I can accept the statement as is, okay. What if someone said "Journey into a brighter, better future with Into the Mother Lands, a brand-new sci-fi odyssey role-playing game, developed by a fantastic team of Caucasian RPG designers."
Is one word more inflammatory than another?
I'll admit the fault could lie with me.
Racial, sexual discrimination and segregation is A-Okay when THEY do it.
For my part, as a mixed race mongrel married to another mixed race mongrel and father of a mixed race mongrel, I have exactly zero interest in playing Myfarog or the counterpart produced by POC (how I hate that term, where's the difference between it and Colored People?).
In my eyes both games are by racists, for racists.
Greetings!
Ahh, Geeky, I love it. Your straight-shooting, brutal sense of humour has e laughing every time, Hermano. I sincerely wish far more people had simple common sense about these kinds of things, and just had a reasonable perspective--a real perspective, based on real people, real food, real experiences, and real relationships. I so often get the sense that people form their social and political views based upon the jello they have been swallowing from a college class, or a book.
Pick your ass up, move to someplace with real people living there. Eat at a local restaurant. Create real relationships with actual normal people--not fucking "Community Activists" or grifting college professors, and the like.
I often think that so much of the SJW consciousness and social and political ideology is so divorced from reality. It's so detached by a margin of oceans from how normal people think, speak, and relate to each other.
Geesus. I miss me some hand-made tortillas, my friend! Some fresh-made chicken enchiladas, good beans and all the good things. And then a fine cigar to enjoy afterwards.
All of the fucking Marxist, racist troglodytes can gargle gasoline.
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Quote from: SHARK on June 16, 2021, 02:16:09 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 16, 2021, 01:23:24 PM
Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on June 16, 2021, 12:55:56 PM
Quote from: TJS on May 27, 2021, 02:17:36 AM
I'm not quite sure what is the issue with this.
It's creating something new, not trying to take over something that already exists.
It has to live or die on it's own merits. So let it.
This is a fair point. I suppose it does have to do with an individuals point of view and assuming a content creators motives.
For me though, when I read the "What is this RPG" intro it says this. "Journey into a brighter, blacker future with Into the Mother Lands, a brand-new sci-fi odyssey role-playing game, developed by a fantastic team of POC RPG designers."
It's been hammered by social media that words matter. So what is this intro mean? Should I just take it as it is? Are there any read between the lines type of thing?
I can accept the statement as is, okay. What if someone said "Journey into a brighter, better future with Into the Mother Lands, a brand-new sci-fi odyssey role-playing game, developed by a fantastic team of Caucasian RPG designers."
Is one word more inflammatory than another?
I'll admit the fault could lie with me.
Racial, sexual discrimination and segregation is A-Okay when THEY do it.
For my part, as a mixed race mongrel married to another mixed race mongrel and father of a mixed race mongrel, I have exactly zero interest in playing Myfarog or the counterpart produced by POC (how I hate that term, where's the difference between it and Colored People?).
In my eyes both games are by racists, for racists.
Greetings!
Ahh, Geeky, I love it. Your straight-shooting, brutal sense of humour has e laughing every time, Hermano. I sincerely wish far more people had simple common sense about these kinds of things, and just had a reasonable perspective--a real perspective, based on real people, real food, real experiences, and real relationships. I so often get the sense that people form their social and political views based upon the jello they have been swallowing from a college class, or a book.
Pick your ass up, move to someplace with real people living there. Eat at a local restaurant. Create real relationships with actual normal people--not fucking "Community Activists" or grifting college professors, and the like.
I often think that so much of the SJW consciousness and social and political ideology is so divorced from reality. It's so detached by a margin of oceans from how normal people think, speak, and relate to each other.
Geesus. I miss me some hand-made tortillas, my friend! Some fresh-made chicken enchiladas, good beans and all the good things. And then a fine cigar to enjoy afterwards.
All of the fucking Marxist, racist troglodytes can gargle gasoline.
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
Hand-Made tortillas... Like the ones my grandma, and her sisters-in-law used to do back in Yucatan and Campeche... Cooked on a comal over an open fire made with wood. Using the tortillas as the spoon to eat some fried eggs so fresh they were still warm from the chicken sitting on them and black beans, black coffe with no sugar (except for the visits they were THAT poor and good ppl).
You could feel the love sitting around to eat with them my friend.
I miss that too.
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 16, 2021, 01:23:24 PMPOC (how I hate that term, where's the difference between it and Colored People?).
Pseudo off-topic.
This ones easy. Newspeak. Replace the old term with new buzzword and make everyone goosestep to the new normal.
70s replaced 50s Black with something like Coloured People?, 90s replaced that with African American or somesuch because coloured people was offfensive. 2010 we have People Of Colour because African American is problematic now or who knows that they hallucinate.
Keep in mind too they were early on for a time going after weird stuff like Spook because somehow that refers to black people. Scrub everything. RPGs get the brunt of this currently because its an easy target, several publishers either had already bent knee, or in cases like WOTC, were already infiltrated or taken over by the 90s iterations.
As for the game in question. As noted before. Seems like its trying to kick into motion outrage marketing by being as offensive as it can get away with. My irk is as always that these things just make life worse for whomever they are supposedly 'representing' or 'championing' for. Crocodile tears. (Or they represent that knot hatemongering that seems to fester in every fandom, faction, interest, whatever. )
Quote from: Omega on June 16, 2021, 02:40:46 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 16, 2021, 01:23:24 PMPOC (how I hate that term, where's the difference between it and Colored People?).
Pseudo off-topic.
This ones easy. Newspeak. Replace the old term with new buzzword and make everyone goosestep to the new normal.
70s replaced 50s Black with something like Coloured People?, 90s replaced that with African American or somesuch because coloured people was offfensive. 2010 we have People Of Colour because African American is problematic now or who knows that they hallucinate.
Keep in mind too they were early on for a time going after weird stuff like Spook because somehow that refers to black people. Scrub everything. RPGs get the brunt of this currently because its an easy target, several publishers either had already bent knee, or in cases like WOTC, were already infiltrated or taken over by the 90s iterations.
As for the game in question. As noted before. Seems like its trying to kick into motion outrage marketing by being as offensive as it can get away with. My irk is as always that these things just make life worse for whomever they are supposedly 'representing' or 'championing' for. Crocodile tears. (Or they represent that knot hatemongering that seems to fester in every fandom, faction, interest, whatever. )
And we have the term Orient/Oriental, which was deemed racist. What has replaced it? East Asian. What did the Orient mean? Oh, don't you know it, east Asia...
Quote from: SHARK on June 16, 2021, 02:16:09 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 16, 2021, 01:23:24 PM
Quote from: Thorn Drumheller on June 16, 2021, 12:55:56 PM
Quote from: TJS on May 27, 2021, 02:17:36 AM
I'm not quite sure what is the issue with this.
It's creating something new, not trying to take over something that already exists.
It has to live or die on it's own merits. So let it.
This is a fair point. I suppose it does have to do with an individuals point of view and assuming a content creators motives.
For me though, when I read the "What is this RPG" intro it says this. "Journey into a brighter, blacker future with Into the Mother Lands, a brand-new sci-fi odyssey role-playing game, developed by a fantastic team of POC RPG designers."
It's been hammered by social media that words matter. So what is this intro mean? Should I just take it as it is? Are there any read between the lines type of thing?
I can accept the statement as is, okay. What if someone said "Journey into a brighter, better future with Into the Mother Lands, a brand-new sci-fi odyssey role-playing game, developed by a fantastic team of Caucasian RPG designers."
Is one word more inflammatory than another?
I'll admit the fault could lie with me.
Racial, sexual discrimination and segregation is A-Okay when THEY do it.
For my part, as a mixed race mongrel married to another mixed race mongrel and father of a mixed race mongrel, I have exactly zero interest in playing Myfarog or the counterpart produced by POC (how I hate that term, where's the difference between it and Colored People?).
In my eyes both games are by racists, for racists.
Greetings!
Ahh, Geeky, I love it. Your straight-shooting, brutal sense of humour has e laughing every time, Hermano. I sincerely wish far more people had simple common sense about these kinds of things, and just had a reasonable perspective--a real perspective, based on real people, real food, real experiences, and real relationships. I so often get the sense that people form their social and political views based upon the jello they have been swallowing from a college class, or a book.
Pick your ass up, move to someplace with real people living there. Eat at a local restaurant. Create real relationships with actual normal people--not fucking "Community Activists" or grifting college professors, and the like.
I often think that so much of the SJW consciousness and social and political ideology is so divorced from reality. It's so detached by a margin of oceans from how normal people think, speak, and relate to each other.
Geesus. I miss me some hand-made tortillas, my friend! Some fresh-made chicken enchiladas, good beans and all the good things. And then a fine cigar to enjoy afterwards.
All of the fucking Marxist, racist troglodytes can gargle gasoline.
Semper Fidelis,
SHARK
I agree with ya Shark!
Quote from: TJS on May 25, 2021, 07:26:11 PM
Quote from: Wrath of God on May 25, 2021, 07:15:10 PM
TBH there is preciously little like strictly historical RPGs overall.
You could add a little magic that's appropriate to what people believed at the time and you have "Mythic Mali".
Sounds like a Rifts Worldbook.
Not too surprisingly, seeing a lot of people who are having second thoughts about this Kickstarter now that it's apparent that the people running it have no plan on how to actually produce a product. No system? No problem! The train wreck is just beginning.
Well....and I can also seeing loads of sjws calling it racist that this game hasn't achieved the funding of Coyote and Crow. You racists just supported the indigenous rpg about no white man instead of the afro futurist rpg about no white man.
Quote from: Ratman_tf on June 16, 2021, 04:14:26 PM
Quote from: TJS on May 25, 2021, 07:26:11 PM
Quote from: Wrath of God on May 25, 2021, 07:15:10 PM
TBH there is preciously little like strictly historical RPGs overall.
You could add a little magic that's appropriate to what people believed at the time and you have "Mythic Mali".
Sounds like a Rifts Worldbook.
Rifts is very authentic to real life --except Chi-Town. Chi-Town is way too nice to come from Chicago.
Quote from: Torque2100 on May 27, 2021, 03:28:08 PMWhat if Mansa Abu Bakr II's exploratory fleet had discovered South America 200 years before Columbus?
We would have found African skeletons in Cancun.
Kickstarter is becoming quite a worthless shithole of a platform.
As they push woke products and woke creators so hard, I wonder how many sane people they are losing as a customer base?
Though I wonder how well these SJW games are going to do once the US gov't turns off the magic money spigot? I suspect much of these KS in the past year have been getting funded via grossly over-inflated unemployment checks and Corona-checks.
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 16, 2021, 01:23:24 PMFor my part, as a mixed race mongrel married to another mixed race mongrel and father of a mixed race mongrel, I have exactly zero interest in playing Myfarog or the counterpart produced by POC (how I hate that term, where's the difference between it and Colored People?).
Jesus Christ Geeky! Do you type all your posts while wearing your Klan sheets?
Everybody knows "People of Color" is the phrase of perfect happy goodness and "Colored People" is the phrase of total racist badness!!!
That's why the NAACP is the National Association for the Advancement of...oops.
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 16, 2021, 01:23:24 PMIn my eyes both games are by racists, for racists.
It's grifter capitalism in action.
There's a near-zero chance either of these games are going to show up at a game table or ever be seen in a game store. They exist to sit on the bookshelf of a paleface incel as a virtue signal to his SJW friends.
It's the fipside of the $200 replica "Nazi dagger" that's also bought by paleface incels...sometimes, the same guys.
Quote from: Spinachcat on June 23, 2021, 11:24:58 PM
Quote from: Torque2100 on May 27, 2021, 03:28:08 PMWhat if Mansa Abu Bakr II's exploratory fleet had discovered South America 200 years before Columbus?
We would have found African skeletons in Cancun.
Oh yeah, my Mayan ancestors didn't beat around the bushes, and a small force with the primitive weapons the Muslims had 200 years before Columbus wouldn't last very long. Hell, I bet not even a large force would.
Only thing that allowed Cortez to win against the Aztecs was their savagery against their neighborgs, who choose to fight on the side of Cortez against the Aztecs. And the Spaniards had steel armor and firearms.
Quote from: Spinachcat on June 23, 2021, 11:39:41 PM
Kickstarter is becoming quite a worthless shithole of a platform.
As they push woke products and woke creators so hard, I wonder how many sane people they are losing as a customer base?
Though I wonder how well these SJW games are going to do once the US gov't turns off the magic money spigot? I suspect much of these KS in the past year have been getting funded via grossly over-inflated unemployment checks and Corona-checks.
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 16, 2021, 01:23:24 PMFor my part, as a mixed race mongrel married to another mixed race mongrel and father of a mixed race mongrel, I have exactly zero interest in playing Myfarog or the counterpart produced by POC (how I hate that term, where's the difference between it and Colored People?).
Jesus Christ Geeky! Do you type all your posts while wearing your Klan sheets?
Everybody knows "People of Color" is the phrase of perfect happy goodness and "Colored People" is the phrase of total racist badness!!!
That's why the NAACP is the National Association for the Advancement of...oops.
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 16, 2021, 01:23:24 PMIn my eyes both games are by racists, for racists.
It's grifter capitalism in action.
There's a near-zero chance either of these games are going to show up at a game table or ever be seen in a game store. They exist to sit on the bookshelf of a paleface incel as a virtue signal to his SJW friends.
It's the fipside of the $200 replica "Nazi dagger" that's also bought by paleface incels...sometimes, the same guys.
You know it man.
: D