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Three D&D Artists Detained by ICE

Started by Apparition, August 29, 2018, 03:10:51 PM

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estar

#30
August 29, 2018, 09:10:46 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;1054442You know, you were the one to turn the conversation on to this subject matter of anti-immigrant and anti-illegal alien xenophobia........

Nope that my fault see my snarky remarks in regards to Point #2.

estar

#31
August 29, 2018, 09:11:53 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1054441I am all for there being a hard "no politics" in the main forum. But hard not to comment when political opinions you strongly disagree with are making their way into the gaming section of the forum. I've been avoiding the subforum for that reason and trying to stick to RPG topics when I do post.

Fought that battle lost and resigned as moderator. As long as it gaming related it fair game for here.

Koltar

#32
August 29, 2018, 09:19:22 PM
One Question......:

What the Eff does it have to do with Role Playing Games??

- Ed C.
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This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
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Still here, still alive, at least Seven years now...

estar

#33
August 29, 2018, 09:27:25 PM
Quote from: Koltar;1054450One Question......:

What the Eff does it have to do with Role Playing Games??

- Ed C.

Artists who work in the industry and heading to Wizards to consult on a project. Look I don't care for it being here either. But if it going to be discussed might as well have some accurate information.

rgrove0172

#34
August 29, 2018, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1054413Very sad to see the anti-immigrant/anti illegal alien sentiment now comes across in main forum threads.

Immigrants and illegal aliens,are very different cases. Don't lump them together, only the desperate left does that.

rgrove0172

#35
August 29, 2018, 09:48:24 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1054414Don't know the specifics of this case, and so haven't formed an opinion on it yet. But this is a topic that extends beyond SJW circles. Lots and lots of moderate people are concerned about the aggressive actions being taken on the immigration front by this administration and feel it is xenophobic.

They can feel any way they want. The facts would dispute it. Same laws in effect for several administrations, laws passed by the ones now crying the loudest.

Alderaan Crumbs

#36
August 29, 2018, 10:02:05 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat;1054404We have PLENTY of artists in the USA so WotC can hire them.

Also, many of these US citizen artists are POC, QWOC, and BBQ flavored!! WotC should be so excited!

BTW, I live in LA. We have LOADS of Evil Honkey EUROS who overstay their Visas by years. When I say I am against illegal aliens, I mean ALL OF THEM.

But most importantly for every day in every way, FUCK WOTC.

Give in to your anger!
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Running: Away from bees.
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MonsterSlayer

#37
August 29, 2018, 10:08:20 PM
Immigration politics aside.. did Erol Otus, Larry Elmore, and the rest of the RPG artists already in the U.S. go into hiding?

Dragon Con is this weekend and I have met Larry Elmore there several times. Perhaps I could pass him a note that there is an artist shortage in the industry.

What about that Dyson Delves dude, are his papers on the up and up? WOTC could use some map help too.

 I like 5E but have not been inspired by any of the art in this edition; so I'm not going to fret about their art cabal being broken up.

Christopher Brady

#39
August 30, 2018, 12:43:11 AM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1054413Very sad to see the anti-immigrant/anti illegal alien sentiment now comes across in main forum threads.

So you're OK with people lying to get into a country, bypassing all the checks and balances that the LEGAL immigrants willingly follow, which takes years.  So cheating is OK to you?  That's very telling.
"And now, my friends, a Dragon\'s toast!  To life\'s little blessings:  wars, plagues and all forms of evil.  Their presence keeps us alert --- and their absence makes us grateful." -T.A. Barron[/SIZE]

estar

#40
August 30, 2018, 01:33:07 AM
Quote from: Christopher Brady;1054474So you're OK with people lying to get into a country, bypassing all the checks and balances that the LEGAL immigrants willingly follow, which takes years.  So cheating is OK to you?  That's very telling.

That is not the case of the three artists.

Christopher Brady

#41
August 30, 2018, 01:42:28 AM
Quote from: estar;1054477That is not the case of the three artists.

Fair point, but they didn't have the proper paperwork, so it appears they were treated in a manner that seems consistent with the organization's guidelines.
"And now, my friends, a Dragon\'s toast!  To life\'s little blessings:  wars, plagues and all forms of evil.  Their presence keeps us alert --- and their absence makes us grateful." -T.A. Barron[/SIZE]

Spinachcat

#42
August 30, 2018, 03:21:08 AM
Quote from: Alderaan Crumbs;1054457Give in to your anger!

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Bedrockbrendan

#43
August 30, 2018, 06:23:32 AM
Quote from: Christopher Brady;1054474So you're OK with people lying to get into a country, bypassing all the checks and balances that the LEGAL immigrants willingly follow, which takes years.  So cheating is OK to you?  That's very telling.

Again, folks are putting words in my mouth. That is a straw man. Not going to add anything further to the discussion.

jeff37923

#44
August 30, 2018, 08:40:17 AM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1054501Again, folks are putting words in my mouth. That is a straw man. Not going to add anything further to the discussion.

A little too late for you in that regard, especially since your behavior has proven my point of, "SJW factions having a field day with this".
"Meh."
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