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CTPhipps

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« Reply #75 on: May 27, 2020, 06:31:54 PM »
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Right, which is why when they come on line talking about how great MMT is the answer is not to be a dork and say "I am not talking to bigots, you bigot" it is to use your free speech to explain that free money never works.

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« Reply #76 on: May 27, 2020, 08:32:11 PM »
I don't post here much but I do read it often. I'm glad that it's a bit more freewheeling even if it does tend to degenerate into these kinds of conversations.

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I am fully okay with being a bigot against bigots. As said earlier, "I only discriminate against assholes."

It's not hard.

Hating Nazis is different from hating Jews. The people involved change the context


Pretty sure that's what they say that TBP right before you're found to be 'not a good fit for the forum.'  Blazing Saddles, or your Superman takes on the Klan reference later, is a better way to handle it rather than shutting down speech.

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Too often it's from people who don't apparently live in the real world where people have to deal with real people who will kill you if you piss them off or are the wrong skin color/gay.


Does that include getting my ass stomped and threatened with worse if I came back for being white at the wrong mall? 'Cause that's a rude awakening, let me tell you. It's usually explained to me by people as "that's different". I believe this is bullshit from both sides, not just 'neo nazis'.

When I see 'nazi' thrown around it just reminds me of what Orwell wrote about the term fascist. It's just as true now as then:
Quote from: George Orwell

It will be seen that, as used, the word 'Fascism' is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else.


It literally means anything I don't like. This entire conversation is fascist. DeadDMWalking's letter was fascist. Humidity? That's definitely fascist. To keep it RPG related, D&D3.x is fascist.

FWIW most people here seem open to conversation. I appreciate -most- of the folks who lean more left who post here as mostly trying to be open minded and balanced in their discussion. The folks who lean right tend to be same. Everyone is called out on their bullshit and people move on.

Regarding the letter that started all this, I get that he's saying if people here are called out for "the idea that maybe they don't do enough to make gaming fun for as wide an audience as possible" people get upset. Yeah. People tend to get pissed at being accused of things that aren't true.  There's a big hate here for story games, certainly, but I haven't seen anyone here advocate confiscation. Outside of that I'm curious as to what he means. Maybe it's the obtuse bullshit being discussed in another thread.

"I think they tend to forget that there are real people who'd love to sling dice but have real obstacles that they might not be able to overcome on their own."  Like what? Like not having a local game store? Like just wanting to indulge my hateful fantasies against [insert current oppressed group here] culture* and stomp some fucking orcs without being judged for it?  Seriously tho, outside of 'he means SJW crap' what does that even mean?

TL/DR: Free speech is great. Silencing speech you don't like is bad.

*not actual reality. Your opinion may vary.
 

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« Reply #77 on: May 27, 2020, 08:44:03 PM »
How is gaming not accessible? You just pick up a book, dice and snacks, and go for it. If you're a member of some group which you don't normally see in game clubs, and you'd like a group of people like you, then you pick up the book and find those gamers and by Gygax's scratchy beard you run that game!

This is the same as that whining a few weeks back when someone said some forum or game company wasn't inclusive of old school gaming, or whatever the fuck it was. Make it happen! Self-publish your rpg, like Gygax did! Start your own game group! I mean, there are people out there who got their grandmas to sit down and game with them.

The very first game group I was in kicked me out - and there were only two other guys! Did I complain? Yes! I went home and cried. Hey, I was 13. Then the next day I drew a copy of the cover of the Basic Set, put my name and phone number, went to the local library, up to the floor of children's books, and got them to let me paste it on the checkout counter - and I got a new game group!

You know that scene in Glory...



This is what I feel like with gamers sometimes. "Boohoo, enworld doesn't like conservatives like me... boohoo there's no game group for people living in East Woop Woop who are from Kyrgyzstan... boohooo.... life is hard."
"No shame, son, get up."
"Waaaaaaah!"
"Goddamnit you're the worst gamer in this club!"
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« Reply #78 on: May 27, 2020, 08:45:12 PM »
People won't come here to debate us because we have opinions. There are lefties and righties and in-between-ies but one thing rings true. We respect your right to have your opinion.

People in the outrage brigade don't want your opinion. They want you to have their opinion.
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« Reply #79 on: May 27, 2020, 09:37:43 PM »
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I also note a bunch of assholes don't seem to understand what free speech is. It means you can't be arrested for saying something.


Actually... you can very much be arrested for saying something. Free speech is not what alot of people seem to think it is. Which in some cases seems to border on some sort of cult religion.

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« Reply #80 on: May 29, 2020, 08:11:13 AM »
I don't get gamers sometimes and why I say some have mental health issues.

One sends off a letter to be possibly published in Knights of the Dinner Table and DMW can't help but toss in a cheap shot at this forum. That is and still is a grade A obsession in plain view.

If I would have done the same and had issues with this place the last thing I would be writing to be published in the same magazine is my hate of a gaming forum. I would be writing about other things.

Not to mention a hypocrite because he is repressive and regressive as can be.