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There will not be a Gurps 5th Edition

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Pat:
I looked at their latest stakeholder's report, and they talk about the huge growth in D&D, but don't talk about any growth of GURPS. Which should be no surprise, because they've chosen to cater to a niche and shrinking corner of the market.

Also noticed that SJG made less money last year than than year before. And when I looked back through their stakeholder's reports, and that's been true every year since 2013. Over that period, they've declined from $8.8 to $4 million. Though to be fair, that was the peak of a huge spike in revenue -- 2009 was just $3 million. They're well past peak Munchkin, but it's still inflating their revenues.

http://www.sjgames.com/general/stakeholders/

CookieMonster:

--- Quote from: Pat on April 23, 2021, 10:56:23 AM ---I looked at their latest stakeholder's report, and they talk about the huge growth in D&D, but don't talk about any growth of GURPS. Which should be no surprise, because they've chosen to cater to a niche and shrinking corner of the market.

Also noticed that SJG made less money last year than than year before. And when I looked back through their stakeholder's reports, and that's been true every year since 2013. Over that period, they've declined from $8.8 to $4 million. Though to be fair, that was the peak of a huge spike in revenue -- 2009 was just $3 million. They're well past peak Munchkin, but it's still inflating their revenues.

http://www.sjgames.com/general/stakeholders/

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Then maybe the time is nigh for SJG to eather Buckle up and do something, or vanish over the next Years.

Pat:

--- Quote from: CookieMonster on April 23, 2021, 11:03:40 AM ---Then maybe the time is nigh for SJG to eather Buckle up and do something, or vanish over the next Years.

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Looks like they were in the $2.5–3 million category for much of the aughts, and with the growth of board games since, as well as a few successful Kickstarters under their belt, I wouldn't be surprised if they could maintain that level or higher without Munchkin.

CookieMonster:

--- Quote from: Pat on April 23, 2021, 11:17:45 AM ---
--- Quote from: CookieMonster on April 23, 2021, 11:03:40 AM ---Then maybe the time is nigh for SJG to eather Buckle up and do something, or vanish over the next Years.

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Looks like they were in the $2.5–3 million category for much of the aughts, and with the growth of board games since, as well as a few successful Kickstarters under their belt, I wouldn't be surprised if they could maintain that level or higher without Munchkin.

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Yeah you are propably right, we will see what the Future brings for them.

Armchair Gamer:

--- Quote from: Pat on April 23, 2021, 10:56:23 AM ---I looked at their latest stakeholder's report, and they talk about the huge growth in D&D, but don't talk about any growth of GURPS. Which should be no surprise, because they've chosen to cater to a niche and shrinking corner of the market.

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   OTOH, is anyone seeing any spillover growth from D&D's huge success? Conventional wisdom was that a growing D&D feeds into the rest of the industry as well, but with the new emphasis on 'lifestyle branding', I'm not so sure that's true any more.

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