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The Worst People You Have Never Met

Started by JulesTheTaxi, January 27, 2024, 07:37:31 AM

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GeekyBugle

Quote from: Fheredin on January 31, 2024, 08:25:26 AM
So perhaps I'll need to eat crow on CBW not being the author. I am still not entirely sold, but alternative explanations for the crazy do now come to mind.

When I searched CBW up, I also noticed her moving around a lot. Study in Alabama, New York, job in Nevada, currently in Oregon with no immediately obvious employment. Three graduate degrees. This is the bio of someone who has poor self-discipline and is up to her eyeballs in debt, but I also want to point out that while most social workers are generously described as vapid parasites, the exceptions to that rule can make vicious enemies. It isn't beyond the pale for her to be fleeing death threats. My supposition is that she researched Zak S hoping to get a monetizable following by "cracking the case" of an "abuser"...and proceeded to fall in love with the subject.

This puts CBW in an awkward position because defending Zak S is basically all or nothing, even if the truth isn't so clear. I think that the evidence Zak S did something wrong is not particularly solid and the evidence the internet mob which got him blacklisted everywhere did wrong things is plain to see. I think that Zak S stuck his dick in crazy, and that he tactically misplayed the controversy. The original blacklists were to abuse Zak, but after his lawsuits, it is now a self-defense to avoid litigation. Even if we could perfectly exonerate Zak S (which we probably can't) he has burned down his bridges back into the industry. That said, while dumb these are not wrong. I am not actually familiar with any wrongdoing I can verify, and innocent until proven guilty.

So you wind up with CBW having the conflicting desire to protect Zak S and her own poor self discipline to actually stay the course and fight against what is sure to be an abusive mob of Zak-haters. Confused desires lead to confused, rambly article, which the author herself pulled down because she doesn't have the mental health to take the abuse these people would surely send her way given the chance. I would say this resembles Harley Quinn and Joker except that I don't actually see any evidence CBW ever directly interacted with Zak S. The confused Gordian knot of emotion which led to this is entirely contained in CBW and self-detonated on its own accord.

This unfortunately reinforces my opinion that the article is an unreliable source.

Eat some more crow, the culprits themselves (3 at least) have confirmed (by having a meltdown) the article and the recordings.
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Quote from: Fheredin on January 31, 2024, 08:25:26 AM
So perhaps I'll need to eat crow on CBW not being the author. I am still not entirely sold, but alternative explanations for the crazy do now come to mind.

When I searched CBW up, I also noticed her moving around a lot. Study in Alabama, New York, job in Nevada, currently in Oregon with no immediately obvious employment. Three graduate degrees. This is the bio of someone who has poor self-discipline and is up to her eyeballs in debt, but I also want to point out that while most social workers are generously described as vapid parasites, the exceptions to that rule can make vicious enemies. It isn't beyond the pale for her to be fleeing death threats. My supposition is that she researched Zak S hoping to get a monetizable following by "cracking the case" of an "abuser"...and proceeded to fall in love with the subject.

This puts CBW in an awkward position because defending Zak S is basically all or nothing, even if the truth isn't so clear. I think that the evidence Zak S did something wrong is not particularly solid and the evidence the internet mob which got him blacklisted everywhere did wrong things is plain to see. I think that Zak S stuck his dick in crazy, and that he tactically misplayed the controversy. The original blacklists were to abuse Zak, but after his lawsuits, it is now a self-defense to avoid litigation. Even if we could perfectly exonerate Zak S (which we probably can't) he has burned down his bridges back into the industry. That said, while dumb these are not wrong. I am not actually familiar with any wrongdoing I can verify, and innocent until proven guilty.

So you wind up with CBW having the conflicting desire to protect Zak S and her own poor self discipline to actually stay the course and fight against what is sure to be an abusive mob of Zak-haters. Confused desires lead to confused, rambly article, which the author herself pulled down because she doesn't have the mental health to take the abuse these people would surely send her way given the chance. I would say this resembles Harley Quinn and Joker except that I don't actually see any evidence CBW ever directly interacted with Zak S. The confused Gordian knot of emotion which led to this is entirely contained in CBW and self-detonated on its own accord.

This unfortunately reinforces my opinion that the article is an unreliable source.

"Stuck His Dick in Crazy" could probably pretty much be the title of Zak's life story...
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Quote from: RPGPundit on January 31, 2024, 08:48:30 AM


"Stuck His Dick in Crazy" could probably pretty much be the title of Zak's life story...

Yep. Been there, done that. Crazy in bed, Crazy in life.
Trade offs, ya know.

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Quote from: Eric Diaz on January 28, 2024, 06:52:49 PM
The audio clips are available in GrimJim's channels, I think. These are 15 damming minutes, but then again where is the rest?


Only if they are real. We now live in an age where voices can be faked to varying degrees and so this piece could one in an ever growing field of fakes. And it is only going to get worse.

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Quote from: Omega on January 31, 2024, 01:45:12 PM
Quote from: Eric Diaz on January 28, 2024, 06:52:49 PM
The audio clips are available in GrimJim's channels, I think. These are 15 damming minutes, but then again where is the rest?


Only if they are real. We now live in an age where voices can be faked to varying degrees and so this piece could one in an ever growing field of fakes. And it is only going to get worse.

Olivia Hill has confimed it's her/him/it, two other individuals did also confirm the article is factual, their complaint is about etrhics not about veracity, next question?
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pawsplay

Saying an article is factual merely because it contains facts is perhaps giving too much credit.

The fact that the article was taken down from Medium suggests to me that an editorial decision was made. Like, this might not be a good article. Anyone have any insight into that?

The other did call Mandy a liar... without proof. So was it taken down because legal exposure? Did Zak ask her to take it down, because it makes accusations without proof?

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Quote from: blackstone on January 31, 2024, 10:57:55 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on January 31, 2024, 08:48:30 AM


"Stuck His Dick in Crazy" could probably pretty much be the title of Zak's life story...

Yep. Been there, done that. Crazy in bed, Crazy in life.
Trade offs, ya know.

Yeah, sure me too. There's a time and a place for all of that and it's called college. But to still be doing that when you're in your late 40s is pretty embarassing, especially if you have money.
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if anything, this whole twatgate rpgdrama had reminded me of Ocule's list. I really will only support creators who I know are decent.
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Looks like a case of leopards eating faces. I guess you never thought it would happen to you, huh, Zak?


Glad so see these underhanded POS's get exposed, but Zak belongs right there with 'em. Sorry, old boy, but...

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Why, I remember when Zak S was just a baby sea lion, on Google+.

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Quote from: JanDevries on January 31, 2024, 09:25:29 PM
Looks like a case of leopards eating faces. I guess you never thought it would happen to you, huh, Zak?



Where did Macris post this? Twitter?
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Quote from: RPGPundit on January 31, 2024, 09:50:27 PM
Quote from: JanDevries on January 31, 2024, 09:25:29 PM
Looks like a case of leopards eating faces. I guess you never thought it would happen to you, huh, Zak?



Where did Macris post this? Twitter?

Autarch Discord.

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So now, even Brianna Wu is trying to walk back cancel culture....

"Meh."

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Quote from: jeff37923 on January 31, 2024, 10:59:42 PM
So now, even Brianna Wu is trying to walk back cancel culture....





Good for zem. Now zey can go away, because while I will forgive without the force-choke, I do not forget, and nubmskulls like Brianna Wu can go take a hike and never come back.
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Quote from: JanDevries on January 31, 2024, 09:53:11 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on January 31, 2024, 09:50:27 PM
Quote from: JanDevries on January 31, 2024, 09:25:29 PM
Looks like a case of leopards eating faces. I guess you never thought it would happen to you, huh, Zak?



Where did Macris post this? Twitter?

Autarch Discord.

Well, I'm glad to see it. Because I knew this from way back when, and its one of the things that was a kind of final breach between me and Zak, as Macris was both my friend and at some moments my boss, and I knew just how badly Zak betrayed him, all to try to seem cool to the gang of leftist cunts who would never accept him because he'd done porn.
But Alex was always kind of mild in his public criticism of what Zak did, and this is (I think) the first time I've seen him publicly make a clear and unequivocal statement about what Zak had done.
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