Quote from: HappyDaze;1090967Well, if you're the GM and you're the one setting the scenes for what happens in my head while I'm playing at your table, then yes. Do a better job of helping the players to form the intended scenes in their heads, or don't be surprised when it goes sideways.

You guys are aware we're not talking about reasonable people here right? And you're okey with them doing so and fucking you over for it.

Quote from: jhkim;1090969This has nothing to do with pro or anti. It's just common sense about what to conclude.

If I'm running a game where the players are all explicitly on-board for sexual violence, then this sort of thing would be a reasonable move for the GM. And... if I were a player in that game, I would still come to the same conclusion.

Take your head out of the gutter then.

Quote from: Shasarak;1090957Meh turns out to be a big ado about nothing.

Pretty much. We're all quibbling over definitions now.

Quote from: jhkim;1090953I disagree that this is a fucktard interpretation. If the characters are all roofied, stripped naked, handcuffed, and have their asses sore - then rape is not some weird woke-only interpretation. I would expect that conservative, totally un-woke players would still presume rape in that situation.

I agree with John.

However, if the GM said "What I meant was the PCs all had diaherrea, but I forgot to mention it since I had been GM-ing for hours" then I would be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

It requires someone to be a Puritan to take that very heavily implied interpretation seriously?

Dude, you are why I can't take anti-SJW conspiracy theorists seriously. Everything is SJW's to you, everything is a plot to destroy innocent people who merely want to do (insert creepy shit here) and even your opening post was such a twisted, bizarre version of events that most people on this site saw through it the moment they actually got the actual facts

You live in a bubble surrounded by mostly imaginary enemies, and it's weird.

Quote from: GeekyBugle;1090971You guys are aware we're not talking about reasonable people here right? And you're okey with them doing so and fucking you over for it.

I choose to look at it like a reasonable person. I think that such an approach makes those that don't do so stand out as raving loons. In my eyes, you're falling into that category as much as the people you are ranting about since you just want to pile higher with the hype. Even worse, you seem share the same belief that any who disagree with you need to be attacked.

Quote from: Anselyn;1090887OK - you might have pictures or miniatures that could be "inappropriate"? But really, I think the idea that you can't have kids at one table in a room because of the nature of conversations at another table is a bit odd. Would you apply that to a restaurant?  

When I go to a restaurant, I would rather people at the next table were not discussing loose bowel motions and rape, yes. This is something we have had to teach my seven year old son, that you don't discuss poo, pee, vomit, death or dismemberment at the dinner table. He's not old enough to know about rape but I think he'll be able to figure that out for himself later. But basically he understands all this, enough to tell other kids when they come and have lunch or dinner here and bring things up.

In other news, you also shouldn't pick your nose at the game table, or cock your leg and say "better out than in" when you fart, or says "cor, look at the norks on that one!" as a woman passes the game table.

Of course, gamers having less table manners than a seven year old is not unprecedented. But what can I say, I have high expectations.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;1090996This is something we have had to teach my seven year old son, that you don't discuss poo, pee, vomit, death or dismemberment at the dinner table.

Ever had the joy of sitting down to eat with a bunch of nurses? The conversation is basically everything you're teaching your son not to talk about plus some.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1090998Ever had the joy of sitting down to eat with a bunch of nurses? The conversation is basically everything you're teaching your son not to talk about plus some.

Agreed, if anybody in your family is a medical professional of any kind, all that stuff is typical dinner table conversation.

Quote from: Ratman_tf;1090973Pretty much. We're all quibbling over definitions now.

Some dudes have a bad game at a Con and all of a sudden its some big deal.

They need to take a concrete pill and harden up.

Quote from: Gagarth;1090861How many kids get from the main event area to the Hilton over a mile way?

Depends on how unsupervised they are? :eek:

But still not something you'd run at a con that is presenting itself as family friendly. Even if they OKed it.

Quote from: Shasarak;1091001Some dudes have a bad game at a Con and all of a sudden its some big deal.

They need to take a concrete pill and harden up.

The "payed money" part may have been a contributor to the ire. I've been tempted at least once at a con when a DM went rotten about midway through. But the other players at the table worked to help me out and he was thwarted and frustrated the rest of the session. Otherwise would have walked and filed a complaint and asked for a refund on the ticket.

Quote from: Anselyn;1090874In the UK, we never had the puritanical Prohibition and we're happy to drink alcohol in pub gardens and conventions alike with kids running around while the adults have their fun and the kids theirs.

Clown boy, it's YOUR media that shat itself over a game at a con.

If YOUR con was fine with "adults have their fun", then it wouldn't have lost it over some fictional sore bums.

Quote from: HappyDaze;1090998Ever had the joy of sitting down to eat with a bunch of nurses? The conversation is basically everything you're teaching your son not to talk about plus some.

Yes. And a significant portion of my garage gym business is paramedics.

We ask them to tone it down if they're at our dinner table.

I think you'll find that past the initial couple of years of their career where it's all new and exciting, most will only have such conversations if exclusively in (para)medical company, if a good part of the table is laypeople, they'll ease off.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1091013Clown boy, it's YOUR media that shat itself over a game at a con.

If YOUR con was fine with "adults have their fun", then it wouldn't have lost it over some fictional sore bums.

Ok. That's a fair cop. I shall remove the crimson orb of jollity from my face.

My point remains though. This is not a binary choice. The options are not kid-exclusive Disneyfication OR adult-only anything-goes events.  Also, adults having their fun do need to know the limits of reasonable behaviour within their own group.