Quote from: Orphan81 on March 01, 2024, 07:36:18 AM
Great article overall, but the real take away for me has been the increasing data that more and more points to these people as suffering severe mental illness.

Obviously, that's self evident, but now it's starting to be proven in an Academic sense. A very recent study of 73 Trans individuals requesting sex re-assignment surgery found 84% of them suffered from Personality Disorders with Narcissism being the highest https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4301205/

When more of these articles like the Medium one are coming out, pointing to just how horrible SJW creatives are not only to the non-woke but each other as well, the fact they're most likely all suffering from extreme Personality Disorders is more and more evident. My hope is with time these people will continue to be rejected and their games start to fail.

As normal gamers begin to realize these people are actually, provably, clinically fucking assholes and you don't have to support them or entertain any of their ideas.

What I'm wondering is what is it about this hobby which attracts them, as I can say with sufficient certainty that it very much does.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on March 04, 2024, 01:47:26 PM
A peeve of mine is how they like to lionize the Aztecs as poor misunderstood Latinos,

I follow native American representation issues for my own reasons, but I haven't seen what you describe even from the most fringe elements. Do you have a source?

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on March 02, 2024, 11:35:11 AM
Someone said this once, when defining the tenets of "fascism":

Quote1. A destined ingroup that is destined to fight and prevail against a vile outgroup (this by definition is flexible)
2. Totalitarian or authoritarian in its structure.
3. A moral framework that is founded on redemptive violence.
4. Usually has a mythological framework built on cultural nostagia.

There are other elements, but this is the core of fascism as a civilizational and cultural model.

What modern social movements does that describe?

1. The oppressed must forever war against the oppressors and there is no hope of redemption except through death
2. Ideological uniformity under pain of excommunication or death
3. Use psychological and physical violence on themselves and others, redemption is only possible through lifelong suffering and ultimately death
4. Mythologize pre-modern cultures as diverse utopias until the oppressors came, heavily rely on nonsensical appeal to nature fallacies (e.g. nuclear power bad, solar power good, meat eating bad, veggie eating good, animals engage in sexual behaviors that must be good by definition), claim various historical figures were secretly members of the oppressed caste

I can go on, but it's pretty clear that leftists are fascists.

#NotWrong

Quote from: SHARK on March 04, 2024, 05:40:04 PM
SHE GOT THE BLACK GIRL MAGIC!!!!

You'd think they'd be trying to move away from that whole 'magical negro' thing, but here we are.

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Quote from: tenbones on March 04, 2024, 05:17:32 PM
WTF is going on in this thread?

What are the Class abilities for Latinos, and do I as a Filipino get the Asian Chi-powered version of that class?

Greetings!

LOL! Great, Tenbones!

This all makes me wonder, do Latino gamers have special powers? Is that like "Black Girl Magic!"--and yeah, apparently "Black Girl Magic" is a thing that is really believed in by our culture, Hollywood, the entertainment industry, and God knows where else in the culture.

Black women, by virtue of simply being *Black Women"--apparently are gifted with special, unique powers.

Yeah, you know I'm right, too, my friend. You can't make this stupid shit up! LOL. I wish I was fucking with you, but I'm not even joking. I've seen this several times in different contexts, movies, music, books, work environment relationships, business, and that's just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more, right? I know, I know. The stupid factor is off the charts, man. OFF THE CHARTS!

SHE GOT THE BLACK GIRL MAGIC!!!!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Accepting these framings of people is exactly what they want. It's the deconstruction of our culture at every level - and it starts with the useful idiots that righteously purge the "bad shit" from our hobbies and interests in order to establish their bizarre utopia. To us - it's madness.

Well they're going to have to accept the counter purity-spiral. "Unfortunately", it too will go overboard. Sorry, not sorry... as they say.

Quote from: Anon Adderlan on March 05, 2024, 09:18:08 AM

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on March 04, 2024, 01:47:26 PM
A peeve of mine is how they like to lionize the Aztecs as poor misunderstood Latinos,

I follow native American representation issues for my own reasons, but I haven't seen what you describe even from the most fringe elements. Do you have a source?

That scene in The Eternals where they argue over halting the sacking of Tenochtitlan. The Aztecs are portrayed as innocent victims of the evil white invaders.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 04, 2024, 02:34:27 PM

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Quote from: RPGPundit on March 03, 2024, 07:52:01 PM
There are different kinds of Latinos. There's the kind that eat tacos and wear sombreros, and then there's the ones who actually win at soccer.

Technically, Brazilians aren't Latinos.

Wrong, Portuguese IS a romance languaje, it also comes (at least in part) from the Latin. Therefore, Brazilians, comming from a Portuguese colony ARE Latinos.

Braizilians are not hispanic. They ARE Latinos.

Spaniards are Hispanic, but not Latinos.

The Portuguese are neither Hispanic nor Latino.

Quote from: Cipher on March 04, 2024, 03:27:44 PM

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Quote from: RPGPundit on March 03, 2024, 07:52:01 PM
There are different kinds of Latinos. There's the kind that eat tacos and wear sombreros, and then there's the ones who actually win at soccer.

Technically, Brazilians aren't Latinos.

Wrong, Portuguese IS a romance languaje, it also comes (at least in part) from the Latin. Therefore, Brazilians, comming from a Portuguese colony ARE Latinos.

I have never understood the usage of the label. "Latino" doesn't really mean anything. I know what its supposed to mean. It means someone in America (the continent) that speaks a romance language (which comes from latin). That is it. It doesn't say anything about who they are or their culture. As you point out, Brazilians speak Portuguese, which is different than Spanish. And Mexico is in North America, while Brazil is in South America. So, they have a different ethnicity, native language and cultural values, but they are both "latino"?

Also, in Canada, there are parts that speak French, like Quebec who's official native language is French, not English. French is also a romance language. But, no one would ever refer to a Canadian from Quebec as "latino".

To me, latino is a meaningless term. So, making a game "latino" means nothing. The cultural values of an american country that happens to speak a romance language have nothing to do with another american country that speaks an american language. Also, even though the US and Canada are right next to each other, they do not have the same cultural values. And no one refers to the US or Canada as "Angloamericans".

I honestly, can't understand why someone can identify with such a label, as the label is meaningless.

Now, I am not saying the people that use the label for themselves are meaningless, I am saying I have a very hard time understanding how can they identify with a label that doesn't really mean anything. Saying someone is "latino" is basically calling them human. I also find strange how people in the US are americans, people from Canada are canadians. But then everyone else is "latinamerican". Again, meaningless term.

And, I am not saying this doesn't happen, but from my travels I known people from Argentina that identify themselves as argentinians and not as "latinos", in the same way people in Chile see themselves as chilean and not necessarily "latino".

GeekyBugle: If you identify yourself as "latino", may I ask what makes you latino in the same way as someone from Brazil? You don't even speak the same language so your cultural values are different. Meaning, you clearly speak English very well, so you have as much in common with people from the US or Canada than with people from Brazil.

Please, don't take this as an offense or attack on your identity, I just really want to understand why someone would accept a label that doesn't really have any meaning as an identifier for their identity.

"Latino" is not really about language, the language is just an identifier. Latino is about people who are from the countries that were colonized by the Iberian peninsula. So no, Quebec is not Latino.

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 04, 2024, 05:12:33 PM

Quote from: Cipher on March 04, 2024, 03:27:44 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 04, 2024, 02:34:27 PM

Quote from: yosemitemike on March 04, 2024, 03:37:58 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 03, 2024, 07:52:01 PM
There are different kinds of Latinos. There's the kind that eat tacos and wear sombreros, and then there's the ones who actually win at soccer.

Technically, Brazilians aren't Latinos.

Wrong, Portuguese IS a romance languaje, it also comes (at least in part) from the Latin. Therefore, Brazilians, comming from a Portuguese colony ARE Latinos.

I have never understood the usage of the label. "Latino" doesn't really mean anything. I know what its supposed to mean. It means someone in America (the continent) that speaks a romance language (which comes from latin). That is it. It doesn't say anything about who they are or their culture. As you point out, Brazilians speak Portuguese, which is different than Spanish. And Mexico is in North America, while Brazil is in South America. So, they have a different ethnicity, native language and cultural values, but they are both "latino"?

Also, in Canada, there are parts that speak French, like Quebec who's official native language is French, not English. French is also a romance language. But, no one would ever refer to a Canadian from Quebec as "latino".

To me, latino is a meaningless term. So, making a game "latino" means nothing. The cultural values of an american country that happens to speak a romance language have nothing to do with another american country that speaks an american language. Also, even though the US and Canada are right next to each other, they do not have the same cultural values. And no one refers to the US or Canada as "Angloamericans".

I honestly, can't understand why someone can identify with such a label, as the label is meaningless.

Now, I am not saying the people that use the label for themselves are meaningless, I am saying I have a very hard time understanding how can they identify with a label that doesn't really mean anything. Saying someone is "latino" is basically calling them human. I also find strange how people in the US are americans, people from Canada are canadians. But then everyone else is "latinamerican". Again, meaningless term.

And, I am not saying this doesn't happen, but from my travels I known people from Argentina that identify themselves as argentinians and not as "latinos", in the same way people in Chile see themselves as chilean and not necessarily "latino".

GeekyBugle: If you identify yourself as "latino", may I ask what makes you latino in the same way as someone from Brazil? You don't even speak the same language so your cultural values are different. Meaning, you clearly speak English very well, so you have as much in common with people from the US or Canada than with people from Brazil.

Please, don't take this as an offense or attack on your identity, I just really want to understand why someone would accept a label that doesn't really have any meaning as an identifier for their identity.

As you correctly point out Latino just means your country was colonized by a Romance speaking European country and you're from the American Continent.

By that definition yes, I'm Latino. But if all you knew about me was that I'm Laticno you know nothing about me really.

I'm Mexican by birth, culture and nationality, Spanish by nationality and culture, Maya by birth (not the culture since I never lived there nor do I speak the language).

Now, if all you knew about me is that I'm Mexican you can make some educated assumptions about my culture and positions in many things. You still don't know very much about me because an assumption isn't knowledge.

There's no such thing as a Latino culture, ethnicity or anything else, it's IMHO, a label invented by gringos to group us all because we come in too varied a color pallete to be cathegorized that way.

The term "Latino" was actually invented in Mexico, in the 19th century, during the Segundo Imperio Mexicano, by the government of Emperor Maximilian I.

Quote from: Anon Adderlan on March 05, 2024, 09:18:08 AM
What I'm wondering is what is it about this hobby which attracts them, as I can say with sufficient certainty that it very much does.

Narcissists go to wherever they can be the center of attention.

Find a bunch of more introverted and/or socially awkward types, insinuate yourself, and make yourself the center of attention.

This goes double if you're a narcissistic girl because the socially awkward boys will put up with absolute shit behavior from them if they think there's even a remote chance of getting laid.

What made it especially egregious in the last dozen years is the explosion of social media and fad popularity of D&D thar came from Stanger Things, Critical Role, et al. This made it a magnet for those looking to be at the center of attention because it was the next cool thing with which to be associated... ooh clicks for talking about nerd stuff!

Social media in general is geared towards enabling the narcissists and those with the social clique mentality of teenage girls. So it's no surprise that any discussion of D&D in a medium dominated by that sorta thought will have that line of thought strongly represented.

The sooner D&D dies and the fad crowd moves on, the sooner we can get back to only have to deal with the bargain-basement single-table narcissists (the ones not smart or saavy or pretty enough to fulfill their demands for attention in wider venues).

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 05, 2024, 05:17:12 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 04, 2024, 05:12:33 PM

Quote from: Cipher on March 04, 2024, 03:27:44 PM

Quote from: GeekyBugle on March 04, 2024, 02:34:27 PM

Quote from: yosemitemike on March 04, 2024, 03:37:58 AM

Quote from: RPGPundit on March 03, 2024, 07:52:01 PM
There are different kinds of Latinos. There's the kind that eat tacos and wear sombreros, and then there's the ones who actually win at soccer.

Technically, Brazilians aren't Latinos.

Wrong, Portuguese IS a romance languaje, it also comes (at least in part) from the Latin. Therefore, Brazilians, comming from a Portuguese colony ARE Latinos.

I have never understood the usage of the label. "Latino" doesn't really mean anything. I know what its supposed to mean. It means someone in America (the continent) that speaks a romance language (which comes from latin). That is it. It doesn't say anything about who they are or their culture. As you point out, Brazilians speak Portuguese, which is different than Spanish. And Mexico is in North America, while Brazil is in South America. So, they have a different ethnicity, native language and cultural values, but they are both "latino"?

Also, in Canada, there are parts that speak French, like Quebec who's official native language is French, not English. French is also a romance language. But, no one would ever refer to a Canadian from Quebec as "latino".

To me, latino is a meaningless term. So, making a game "latino" means nothing. The cultural values of an american country that happens to speak a romance language have nothing to do with another american country that speaks an american language. Also, even though the US and Canada are right next to each other, they do not have the same cultural values. And no one refers to the US or Canada as "Angloamericans".

I honestly, can't understand why someone can identify with such a label, as the label is meaningless.

Now, I am not saying the people that use the label for themselves are meaningless, I am saying I have a very hard time understanding how can they identify with a label that doesn't really mean anything. Saying someone is "latino" is basically calling them human. I also find strange how people in the US are americans, people from Canada are canadians. But then everyone else is "latinamerican". Again, meaningless term.

And, I am not saying this doesn't happen, but from my travels I known people from Argentina that identify themselves as argentinians and not as "latinos", in the same way people in Chile see themselves as chilean and not necessarily "latino".

GeekyBugle: If you identify yourself as "latino", may I ask what makes you latino in the same way as someone from Brazil? You don't even speak the same language so your cultural values are different. Meaning, you clearly speak English very well, so you have as much in common with people from the US or Canada than with people from Brazil.

Please, don't take this as an offense or attack on your identity, I just really want to understand why someone would accept a label that doesn't really have any meaning as an identifier for their identity.

As you correctly point out Latino just means your country was colonized by a Romance speaking European country and you're from the American Continent.

By that definition yes, I'm Latino. But if all you knew about me was that I'm Laticno you know nothing about me really.

I'm Mexican by birth, culture and nationality, Spanish by nationality and culture, Maya by birth (not the culture since I never lived there nor do I speak the language).

Now, if all you knew about me is that I'm Mexican you can make some educated assumptions about my culture and positions in many things. You still don't know very much about me because an assumption isn't knowledge.

There's no such thing as a Latino culture, ethnicity or anything else, it's IMHO, a label invented by gringos to group us all because we come in too varied a color pallete to be cathegorized that way.

The term "Latino" was actually invented in Mexico, in the 19th century, during the Segundo Imperio Mexicano, by the government of Emperor Maximilian I.

So by the French... Same shit, it's not something any "latino" did.

Quote from: zer0th on March 01, 2024, 07:58:11 AM
As it is of common practice, I'd like to exclude us Brazilians from the Latino game (as we exclude ourselves from the Latino tag in general) and have our own game.

A I have noted many a time. Dragao Brasil was an excellent RPG magazine.

Quote from: Grognard GM on March 04, 2024, 06:53:28 PM

Quote from: tenbones on March 04, 2024, 05:17:32 PM
WTF is going on in this thread?

What are the Class abilities for Latinos, and do I as a Filipino get the Asian Chi-powered version of that class?

I'm afraid only Chinese, Japanese and Koreans get Chi powers.

You get...(checks list)...stick fighting.

You forgot Nursing (Basic) d4.

I think you guys are missing the point going down the Latino rabbit hole. They use Latinex which is different and means whatever nonsense they want it to mean as well as different things next week.

You can't defeat insanity with logic. They'll just change the definitions and claim that as proof of their brilliance.

Quote from: BoxCrayonTales on March 05, 2024, 11:25:43 AMThat scene in The Eternals where they argue over halting the sacking of Tenochtitlan. The Aztecs are portrayed as innocent victims of the evil white invaders.

Quote from: Chris24601 on March 05, 2024, 06:32:29 PM
The sooner D&D dies and the fad crowd moves on, the sooner we can get back to only have to deal with the bargain-basement single-table narcissists (the ones not smart or saavy or pretty enough to fulfill their demands for attention in wider venues).

Not that we'd miss them if they left too.

This meme (from Frieren: Beyond Journey's End) pretty much sums up what these pondscum bottom feeders do...

Quote from: HappyDaze on March 06, 2024, 04:04:35 PM

Quote from: Grognard GM on March 04, 2024, 06:53:28 PM

Quote from: tenbones on March 04, 2024, 05:17:32 PM
WTF is going on in this thread?

What are the Class abilities for Latinos, and do I as a Filipino get the Asian Chi-powered version of that class?

I'm afraid only Chinese, Japanese and Koreans get Chi powers.

You get...(checks list)...stick fighting.

You forgot Nursing (Basic) d4.

Damn. You invoked the Fancy Asian Vs. Jungle Asian rule...