Also, seeing a bunch of that White Wolf staff decry FATAL on RPG.net, when they produced Werewolf: The Apocalypse. Which was every bit as bad as FATAL was.
I dunno, I found their
Shoah to be in pretty bad taste. A fundamentally depressing topic, too - but then, that's most of the WoD settings, they're either depressing or just fucking weird - or both.
Mage always seemed to me to be... well, basically the Matrix. "Paradox" = "attention of the Agents", same shit really.
Overall all rather too thespy for me. "I exist by drinking the blood of the living, but like, you know, I feel bad about it and stuff." And then there was that session with the Israeli vampires... oy.