CTPhipps I'm talking worldwide sales. Stats on Drivethu RPG sales are insignificant compared to the overall sales of even a single RPG company especially WOTC, and Hasbro...

Hasbro sales were down 11% worldwide in 2019, compared to North America, and Canada. European sales were up actually 8%, Latin American sales were down 46%, Asia/Pacific Sales were down 18%. Domestically emerging brands are down 19%, Domestic TV/Film, & Entertainment are down 29% so far, and eOne is down 132% from their revenues from last year. Right now the Hasbro Games unit is the shining star, the crown jewel in all of Hasbro's holdings. Imagine that, ....Magic: The Gathering and D&D garnering a minimum of 5x the growth of any other Division at Hasbro.

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Here is eOne's report on their suck performance so far this year. I'm pretty sure all the executives who cashed in their stock and stock options are too busy in their club med yachts to care what is happening to the company now. I think Hasbro bought them thinking they could vertically integrate their US holdings into an international marketplace, which might have worked out, except Europe is shutdown now, and all the socialists there are going to try real hard to keep it closed indefinitely.

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Here is all the eOne releases that have been significantly delayed, and of course, with the shutdown, there is nothing new in the pipeline yet, meaning they won't be able to hit the same target goals they have achieved in previous years, unless eOne gets some more new movies into production...

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I'm kind of looking forward to Ghostbuster's III: Afterlife
[video=youtube;GvPPbJsSey0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvPPbJsSey0[/youtube]

Finally Hasbro Games leads the pack, never thought I would see that day... Also don't know why Hasbro is getting into the superhero movie market right now, that market is about all tapped out, and I'll be surprised to see if that dog can still hunt. Also I think that getting into bed with companies like Sony, and uhh, Universal, and uh, Disney. Paramount, and Marvel Studios will be an experience an awful lot like going to bed with a troll after wearing beer goggles, and waking up the next morning and gnawing your own arm off to get away from that monster(s)  that you found yourself sleeping with. ...Just 'sayin.

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Quote from: GameDaddy;1131268CTPhipps I'm talking worldwide sales. Stats on Drivethu RPG sales are insignificant compared to the overall sales of even a single RPG company especially WOTC, and Hasbro...

You unfortunately entered the conversation at a bad time since I just said that I wasn't really concerned too much trying to prove White Wolf a success. I just was sharing my thoughts that I felt White Wolf had turned things around.

I'm just a fan, not their publicist.

Though this is fascinating stuff. Honestly, it looks like Hasbro has made some fantastically poor overspending decisions that dramatically increased their overhead and also have been insufficiently building on their brands. Still, I actually think they may be making the right decision with superhero movies as the diverse marketing and merch from those are a fountain for a company that....well, manufactures merch. The x5 element was also unexpected.

You do share a lot of awesome details, though, thank you.

Quote from: GameDaddy;1131258Well, the fan base here in the U.S. is certainly not nearly as large as it used to be. I'm thinking they will pickup some more followers though in South America, based on the YouTube video. There should be a Spanish as well as a Portuguese version of this video, ...yes? Why is this not much more popular in Europe? Currently it's ranked 8th worldwide as of Dec 31st 2019, so not as bad as I originally thought. Still though..

Dungeon World #7
GURPS is #6
Call of Cthulu #5
Shadowrun 5e #4
Pathfinder #3
Dresden Files #2
and D&D 5e #1

Note that this is worldwide sales and popularity, not just U.S. WoD is #12, specifically the version written by Monte Cook.

Where did you get this information from?

It's funny we're all so invested in how White Wolf is doing.

Quote from: CTPhipps;1131345It's funny we're all so invested in how White Wolf is doing.

Hardcore fantasy nerds don't want Whitewolf to do well because the Goth Girl turned them down in High School.

Quote from: Orphan81;1131381Hardcore fantasy nerds don't want Whitewolf to do well because the Goth Girl turned them down in High School.

Hey!

I'll have you know I turned down the Goth Girl in high school.

True story.

She wanted to go out with me, but we both had a lot of mental health issues, and I kind of knew neither of us could handle a relationship at that point in our lives (plus, don't stick it in the crazy) and we actually talked it out.

Surprisingly, she took it well and we remained friends until graduation. I think the fact both of us were total outcasts in high school may have had something to do with it.

Well, I later had a girlfriend the summer I graduated, and it didn't work out too well in the long run and the Goth girl later became a heroin addict and had to go to a rehab center in Pennsylvania.

We still keep in touch online, and she's staying clean as far as I know.