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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #420 on: March 17, 2021, 08:26:14 PM »
Here's part of the problem: scroll down to 'Forum Statistics' on TBP's forum page.

684,000+ threads, almost 21 million messages, and nearly 100,000 registered users.

True, but that's reflective of nearly 20 years of operation.  A better stat would be to track the daily usage by number of visitors and posts, which I suspect would be down significantly from 10-12 years ago.  Or check the number of bannings and warnings handed out on a daily basis, which I suspect has increased.
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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #421 on: March 17, 2021, 08:38:47 PM »
Also, Tanka is a snotty little punk who never left high school, psychologically. Prove me wrong.

There should be an extra a in "Tanaka", right?
Another one less, and an extra ie at the end.

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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #422 on: March 17, 2021, 09:08:57 PM »
What'd you expect, though? Who's going to tell them 'You guys are stupid and you should feel bad'?

Here's part of the problem: scroll down to 'Forum Statistics' on TBP's forum page.

684,000+ threads, almost 21 million messages, and nearly 100,000 registered users.

Inertia will keep it going, at least for a time. But who knows when it'll collapse?
How many of those 100,000 registered users have been banned?

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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #423 on: March 17, 2021, 09:23:21 PM »
Can someone explain to me why a fucking nerdy ass hobby about pretending to be fruity elves needs any sort of real-world politics injected into it? I am not being flippant or rhetorical, I want an honest answer as to why people just can't leave their problems at the door to play a GAME. I play GAMES to get the fuck away from real life, I don't want to hyper-analyze stupid shit, I just want to get drunk and roll dice. These fucktards are sucking the joy out of something I have enjoyed since I was a kid and made it into an avenue to explore their sophomoric postmodern ideas. Sorry, I actually have two degrees in philosophy, most of this shit can easily be addressed after one semester of Aristotle. Fuck them. Seriously.

This one is easy. Unfortunately.

Why are they infiltrating and co-opting RPGs so heavily? Because you then have a platform to push your agenda. And they are popular and easy targets. Same with other media. Only apparently easier in the case of comics and movies. I'd say RPGs are the 3rd tier of the bid to spread this mental disease as far as possible. Down from there are video games and then somewhere down below are board games. And there is NOTHING they have not set their sights on to try and co-opt. And all they need is one foot in the door to plant the seeds of madness and off we go with another venue eventually ruined if it takes root.

I think the other reason they are going after RPGs and comics and cartoons so hard is that this allows them to spread their venom to a younger audience. Paving the way for the 2030 wave. Which hilariously will point at our current 2010 wave and demonize them just as 2010 did to 1990, and so on back.

This iteration just happens to be the most insidious and damaging of any prior.

Its Delta Green come to life.

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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #424 on: March 17, 2021, 10:04:45 PM »
Can someone explain to me why a fucking nerdy ass hobby about pretending to be fruity elves needs any sort of real-world politics injected into it? I am not being flippant or rhetorical, I want an honest answer as to why people just can't leave their problems at the door to play a GAME. I play GAMES to get the fuck away from real life, I don't want to hyper-analyze stupid shit, I just want to get drunk and roll dice. These fucktards are sucking the joy out of something I have enjoyed since I was a kid and made it into an avenue to explore their sophomoric postmodern ideas. Sorry, I actually have two degrees in philosophy, most of this shit can easily be addressed after one semester of Aristotle. Fuck them. Seriously.

This one is easy. Unfortunately.

Why are they infiltrating and co-opting RPGs so heavily? Because you then have a platform to push your agenda. And they are popular and easy targets. Same with other media. Only apparently easier in the case of comics and movies. I'd say RPGs are the 3rd tier of the bid to spread this mental disease as far as possible. Down from there are video games and then somewhere down below are board games. And there is NOTHING they have not set their sights on to try and co-opt. And all they need is one foot in the door to plant the seeds of madness and off we go with another venue eventually ruined if it takes root.

I think the other reason they are going after RPGs and comics and cartoons so hard is that this allows them to spread their venom to a younger audience. Paving the way for the 2030 wave. Which hilariously will point at our current 2010 wave and demonize them just as 2010 did to 1990, and so on back.

This iteration just happens to be the most insidious and damaging of any prior.

Its Delta Green come to life.

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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #425 on: March 18, 2021, 08:18:49 AM »
Politics is downstream from culture.

And as Omega notes, they have an agenda to push. Thinking of them as proselytizing religious zealots is a fairly accurate comparison.

HappyDaze actually makes a good point, too. How many of those nigh-100k users are banned? I admit it didn't occur to me that they would keep those banned users on the 'roll' to pad their population. I should've pulled up the 'current online' statistics, which as of right now (7:15AM CDT) is:

198 members online
306 guests online

(oh, and at least one of those members/guests is the Google AdSense robot. So subtract one.)

I might, out of boredom, do some data collection, see if there are peaks and valleys in those numbers.

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« Reply #426 on: March 18, 2021, 08:43:40 AM »
And yet I just saw something in a tangentially related field (movies) that only confirms something I strongly believe in: that "they" need someone with a disturbed mindset to be actually heard and agreed. And, luckily, most of us do not fall in that category.

Recently, Netflix put out this movie, "365 Days", which caused a stir. It is about sex slavery, rape, mindfucking and such. I haven't seen it so I can't comment. However, this female journalist from The Independent found it "disgusting". Well, that's her privilege. She pointed out how on Netflix she watches "safe" shows like "Gilmore Girls" and "Friends". Fine, good for her.

Then she says that "365 Days" finally made her cancel her Netflix subscription. Hmmm... OK? If this is your way to send a signal...

And then, out of nowhere, she pulls out this amazing gem:

"It’s why I’ve found that BFI Player, with its brilliantly curated archive and careful selection of new releases – forcing me to make more discerning choices – is just about all I can handle."

Uh?!?  :o So, she abandoned a service offering a wide variety of contents and the opportunity for her to choose what is best for her, for a service that forces her to watch only what a third party deems "good" - so that she can handle her life?! It is not even something implied: she openly uses these exact words.

Netflix is not new to "scandal and controversy". I guess that if it survives so successfully is because people just ignore what they don't like and watch what they do like. On Netflix you can literally search for "Social Issues TV Dramas" if that is what you are looking for.

I have Netflix. I'm not interested in "365 Days" - and no one will be able to "force" me to watch it. It is physically impossible! But I have already earmarked "Mank" and "The Trial of the Chicago Seven" and I'm currently watching "Starblazers 2199". Thank you, Netflix. You don't like my choices? You have my blessing to watch what you want.

I can't wait for when the BFI Player will drop "A Clockwork Orange" on her head. The irony of it will be multidimensional.
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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #427 on: March 22, 2021, 08:39:47 AM »
So TBP tossed up a banner:

"n the last year the Asian-American and Pacific Islander community has increasingly been the target of hate and violence, with the recent shooting being only the most recent and horrific example. RPGnet stands in solidarity with that community. We all have an obligation to stand up again racism and bigotry in all its forms."

Unintentional comedy at its finest. It was only the last incident -- where a sex-addicted loon shot people -- that actually got any movement. Discussion of ferals attacking elderly Asians? Crickets.

I think this link has the best response to this kind of gratis mut: https://thelibertarianrepublic.com/dear-white-liberals-asians-arent-your-pawns/

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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #428 on: March 22, 2021, 09:06:34 AM »
So TBP tossed up a banner:

"n the last year the Asian-American and Pacific Islander community has increasingly been the target of hate and violence, with the recent shooting being only the most recent and horrific example. RPGnet stands in solidarity with that community. We all have an obligation to stand up again racism and bigotry in all its forms."

Unintentional comedy at its finest. It was only the last incident -- where a sex-addicted loon shot people -- that actually got any movement. Discussion of ferals attacking elderly Asians? Crickets.

I think this link has the best response to this kind of gratis mut: https://thelibertarianrepublic.com/dear-white-liberals-asians-arent-your-pawns/

Yep. It's early in the investigations, but so far, it looks like this guy was a loony sex addict with a side dish of religious nuttery, who shot the place up because it was a temptation. There is zero evidence that it was a racially motivated shooting, but regressives are trying to cook up tenuous justifications to make it about race.
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« Reply #429 on: March 22, 2021, 09:11:29 AM »
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How many of those 100,000 registered users have been banned?

I think I'm at least a half dozen of those. I've been "permabanned" numerous times over the years, more so in the latter half of the time I've been active. But, I just let the dust settle, float my IP and then re-register with a new identity. I know more than a few other people who have done the same. I mean, the moderation there is terrible, but some of the actual users are pretty cool and helpful. I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bath water over some lousy mods.


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« Reply #430 on: March 22, 2021, 09:17:19 AM »
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How many of those 100,000 registered users have been banned?

I think I'm at least a half dozen of those. I've been "permabanned" numerous times over the years, more so in the latter half of the time I've been active. But, I just let the dust settle, float my IP and then re-register with a new identity. I know more than a few other people who have done the same. I mean, the moderation there is terrible, but some of the actual users are pretty cool and helpful. I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bath water over some lousy mods.

Your choice. I don't find the juice worth the squeeze. There's an occasional good post with productive ideas about role playing, interspersed among lots of discussions that were old when the internet was dial-up*, and a LOT of ideological bullying. It is, to use their terminology, a toxic environment that isn't good for one's mental health.

*And that's understandable. Millions of people get online every day to discuss the minutia about their interests. Topics get beat into the ground fast.
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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #431 on: March 22, 2021, 09:48:47 AM »
Your choice. I don't find the juice worth the squeeze. There's an occasional good post with productive ideas about role playing, interspersed among lots of discussions that were old when the internet was dial-up*, and a LOT of ideological bullying.
I registered there a couple of months ago in the mistaken belief that you had to register if you wanted to access all the sub-fora (this is the rule in some forums I know).

I still haven't found a reason to post there even once.
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« Reply #432 on: March 22, 2021, 09:55:13 AM »
HappyDaze actually makes a good point, too. How many of those nigh-100k users are banned? I admit it didn't occur to me that they would keep those banned users on the 'roll' to pad their population. ...
Last month I asked to be removed from their site, they refused.  So, my inclination is to believe that they will pad the shit out of their numbers for ego and advertising purposes.
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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #433 on: March 22, 2021, 10:43:30 AM »
Your choice. I don't find the juice worth the squeeze. There's an occasional good post with productive ideas about role playing, interspersed among lots of discussions that were old when the internet was dial-up*, and a LOT of ideological bullying.
I registered there a couple of months ago in the mistaken belief that you had to register if you wanted to access all the sub-fora (this is the rule in some forums I know).

I still haven't found a reason to post there even once.
I think you have to register to read the Tangency forum.

Why this is the case, I will leave to others to speculate.

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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #434 on: March 22, 2021, 10:44:55 AM »
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Your choice. I don't find the juice worth the squeeze.


And that's the thing. I've been a member there since way back in the day, back when things were good. If the handful of good members there in the design forum were to come here or be on reddit, then I probably wouldn't bother. It only takes a moment to reset my IP, and worth the cost to blast any pseudo-theory bullshit that pops up in the design forums. I will say, since all those silly "theories" have been debunked (and the unholy trinity of pretentious armchair designers whose names I dare not mention have faded into obscurity), it has been quiet over there. The design forum (the only one on which I participate) is also the least rife with all the political garbage. I've actually had my current account since 2012, and haven't even had a warning once.

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Last month I asked to be removed from their site, they refused.  So, my inclination is to believe that they will pad the shit out of their numbers for ego and advertising purposes.

+1 to this. They most certainly don't have 100k active members. They also have the deadest design forum out of all the forums I visit. I strongly suspect that when the nonsense hit its prime over there, that boosted rpgeek's numbers, and then this place and reddit had launched as other alternatives. I kinda just float in and out of the forums over time (usually pop back in when I'm working on a new design), and I've noticed things seemed to slow down quite a bit soon after The Forge closed. I don't think this is a coincidence. I bet that a significant portion of their membership are old school gamers (and OGs on the site) who stuck around, as I've seen activity in reddit rise over the years, which makes sense as it's a) a less biased alternative and b) more popular with the younger generations.