Of course a recent discussion of the Altered Carbon RPG by Hunters Games and Renegade Game Studio devolved into accusations by the RPG.net mod staff that the author of the books that the tv show and RPG is based on made transphobic comments because he made the actual scientific statement that people are born into one of two binary genders.
It kind of started at this point:
Marras said:
I don’t know if Morgan get’s any money out of it or not, hopefully he does.
Hopefully he does not, since he saw it good to launch into transphobic screds on Twitter.
nifoc said:
There's a cyberpunk pbta called The Veil, the expansion to that, Cascade, is basically Altered Carbon.
Including an Envoy-under-another-name playbook!
The Marras replied:
Argent said:
Hopefully he does not, since he saw it good to launch into transphobic screds on Twitter.
Including an Envoy-under-another-name playbook!
We’re all entitled to our own opinions, even about Morgan being transfobic or not.
It’s interesting that there’s Envoy in the Veil supplement. Mechanically a bit more traditional game like official AC RPG works better for me than PbtA type games.
This of course triggered nazi mod Q99 to have to act:
Marras said:
We’re all entitled to our own opinions, even about Morgan being transfobic or not.
It’s interesting that there’s Envoy in the Veil supplement. Mechanically a bit more traditional game like official AC RPG works better for me than PbtA type games.
Moderator Text:
One of the things that's important for us here is to try and not just "agree to disagree" about some things. A pretty big one is human rights, and that's exactly what it's at the core of this. Morgan has made statements that were unambiguously transphobic. That's a human rights issue.
We, as a team, say this with a degree of pain, since some of us have enjoyed and even recommended some of his work in the past. But bigotry is bigotry, Morgan has made bigoted statements in the subject, and fuck transphobes.
You don't have to engage in the subject if you don't want to, there's nothing compelling anyone to state their views on the subject- but what you certainly can't do is wave away these real concerns and write off transphobia (or other bigotries) as "a matter of option."
Take three days off, and leave the thread.
With the 3 day ban in effect, another poster was so disgusted by the fascist political grandstanding of the mods and posted this blaze of glory on his way to a purposeful perma ban and brave to him for having the balls to stand up to these soy freaks:
💀 Permanent Ban
The moderator has stepped in on this thread.
We should expect a moderator to step in to calm things, get a thread back on track and/or remove political animosity
Sensible policies for a site that is for discussions of RPGs.
However in this case the moderator has stepped into to take a political side rather than act in any neutral manner or to
bring the subject back to matters of RPGs.
He has called Mr Morgan an transphobe and a bigot. Having purused MR. Morgan's statements I do not beleive any of the
claims the moderator makes can be backed up and hopefully RpgnEt will find itself a litigant in a libel case.
Maybe in future the moderators avail themselves of a dictionary and learn what words actually mean before using
them to libel someone.
What Richard Morgan has actually said in sumamry
All people are deserving of the same rights and protections as any other people and he also holds the sex is binary, you are either born man or woman
Now you may disagree with this and if you have an intelligent and nuanced argument; good on you. The argument from the moderator
is neither. Instead we are presented with sanctimonious and unsubstantiated political grandstanding.
Clearly this will get me banned from Rpgnet. Good I have no wish to be part of a RPG community that has an inability to take on
a political neutral position. The correct action is this case was to suspend the member for a period saying "stay out of politics"
but that is not the position they have taken. I have no intention of ever using this site again and
sincerely hope never to have to communicate ever again with the these so called moderators. There are many other similar
sites that have decided on mature policy. Rpgnet has not. Goodbye
Mod Nazi BethDragon obliged as fast as whatever its pronoun is could with the following ban immediately:
Spindrift said:
The moderator has stepped in on this thread.
We should expect a moderator to step in to calm things, get a thread back on track and/or remove political animosity
Sensible policies for a site that is for discussions of RPGs.
However in this case the moderator has stepped into to take a political side rather than act in any neutral manner or to
bring the subject back to matters of RPGs.
He has called Mr Morgan an transphobe and a bigot. Having purused MR. Morgan's statements I do not beleive any of the
claims the moderator makes can be backed up and hopefully RpgnEt will find itself a litigant in a libel case.
Maybe in future the moderators avail themselves of a dictionary and learn what words actually mean before using
them to libel someone.
What Richard Morgan has actually said in sumamry
All people are deserving of the same rights and protections as any other people and he also holds the sex is binary, you are either born man or woman
Now you may disagree with this and if you have an intelligent and nuanced argument; good on you. The argument from the moderator
is neither. Instead we are presented with sanctimonious and unsubstantiated political grandstanding.
Clearly this will get me banned from Rpgnet. Good I have no wish to be part of a RPG community that has an inability to take on
a political neutral position. The correct action is this case was to suspend the member for a period saying "stay out of politics"
but that is not the position they have taken. I have no intention of ever using this site again and
sincerely hope never to have to communicate ever again with the these so called moderators. There are many other similar
sites that have decided on mature policy. Rpgnet has not. Goodbye
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Moderator Text:
Trans rights are human rights. To deny this is transphobic, period.
RPGnet has been vocally supportive of trans rights for years. You would know this, if you had paid any modicum of attention.
But you're not here for discussion, you're here for a performative stomping of your feet. You are absolutely not here to post in good faith.
Permanently banned under Rule 0.
The utter gumption and depths of political grandstanding with these knobs is incredible. I can't stop peeking in to watch their triggered responses to any discussion of a game where any of the content or comments one of the devs or IP creator has made that rubs their safe space the wrong way. It is entertaining.