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The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« on: December 28, 2020, 03:18:59 PM »
Of course a recent discussion of the Altered Carbon RPG by Hunters Games and Renegade Game Studio devolved into accusations by the RPG.net mod staff that the author of the books that the tv show and RPG is based on made transphobic comments because he made the actual scientific statement that people are born into one of two binary genders.   

It kind of started at this point:

Marras said:
I don’t know if Morgan get’s any money out of it or not, hopefully he does.
Hopefully he does not, since he saw it good to launch into transphobic screds on Twitter.

nifoc said:
There's a cyberpunk pbta called The Veil, the expansion to that, Cascade, is basically Altered Carbon.
Including an Envoy-under-another-name playbook!

The Marras replied:

Argent said:
Hopefully he does not, since he saw it good to launch into transphobic screds on Twitter.

Including an Envoy-under-another-name playbook!
We’re all entitled to our own opinions, even about Morgan being transfobic or not.

It’s interesting that there’s Envoy in the Veil supplement. Mechanically a bit more traditional game like official AC RPG works better for me than PbtA type games.


This of course triggered nazi mod Q99 to have to act:


Marras said:
We’re all entitled to our own opinions, even about Morgan being transfobic or not.

It’s interesting that there’s Envoy in the Veil supplement. Mechanically a bit more traditional game like official AC RPG works better for me than PbtA type games.
Moderator Text:

One of the things that's important for us here is to try and not just "agree to disagree" about some things. A pretty big one is human rights, and that's exactly what it's at the core of this. Morgan has made statements that were unambiguously transphobic. That's a human rights issue.
We, as a team, say this with a degree of pain, since some of us have enjoyed and even recommended some of his work in the past. But bigotry is bigotry, Morgan has made bigoted statements in the subject, and fuck transphobes.

You don't have to engage in the subject if you don't want to, there's nothing compelling anyone to state their views on the subject- but what you certainly can't do is wave away these real concerns and write off transphobia (or other bigotries) as "a matter of option."

Take three days off, and leave the thread.

With the 3 day ban in effect, another poster was so disgusted by the fascist political grandstanding of the mods and posted this blaze of glory on his way to a purposeful perma ban and brave to him for having the balls to stand up to these soy freaks:

 💀 Permanent Ban
The moderator has stepped in on this thread.
We should expect a moderator to step in to calm things, get a thread back on track and/or remove political animosity
Sensible policies for a site that is for discussions of RPGs.
However in this case the moderator has stepped into to take a political side rather than act in any neutral manner or to
bring the subject back to matters of RPGs.

He has called Mr Morgan an transphobe and a bigot. Having purused MR. Morgan's statements I do not beleive any of the
claims the moderator makes can be backed up and hopefully RpgnEt will find itself a litigant in a libel case.
Maybe in future the moderators avail themselves of a dictionary and learn what words actually mean before using
them to libel someone.

What Richard Morgan has actually said in sumamry
All people are deserving of the same rights and protections as any other people and he also holds the sex is binary, you are either born man or woman

Now you may disagree with this and if you have an intelligent and nuanced argument; good on you. The argument from the moderator
is neither. Instead we are presented with sanctimonious and unsubstantiated political grandstanding.

Clearly this will get me banned from Rpgnet. Good I have no wish to be part of a RPG community that has an inability to take on
a political neutral position. The correct action is this case was to suspend the member for a period saying "stay out of politics"
but that is not the position they have taken. I have no intention of ever using this site again and
sincerely hope never to have to communicate ever again with the these so called moderators. There are many other similar
sites that have decided on mature policy. Rpgnet has not. Goodbye

Mod Nazi BethDragon obliged as fast as whatever its pronoun is could with the following ban immediately:

Spindrift said:
The moderator has stepped in on this thread.
We should expect a moderator to step in to calm things, get a thread back on track and/or remove political animosity
Sensible policies for a site that is for discussions of RPGs.
However in this case the moderator has stepped into to take a political side rather than act in any neutral manner or to
bring the subject back to matters of RPGs.

He has called Mr Morgan an transphobe and a bigot. Having purused MR. Morgan's statements I do not beleive any of the
claims the moderator makes can be backed up and hopefully RpgnEt will find itself a litigant in a libel case.
Maybe in future the moderators avail themselves of a dictionary and learn what words actually mean before using
them to libel someone.

What Richard Morgan has actually said in sumamry
All people are deserving of the same rights and protections as any other people and he also holds the sex is binary, you are either born man or woman
Now you may disagree with this and if you have an intelligent and nuanced argument; good on you. The argument from the moderator
is neither. Instead we are presented with sanctimonious and unsubstantiated political grandstanding.

Clearly this will get me banned from Rpgnet. Good I have no wish to be part of a RPG community that has an inability to take on
a political neutral position. The correct action is this case was to suspend the member for a period saying "stay out of politics"
but that is not the position they have taken. I have no intention of ever using this site again and
sincerely hope never to have to communicate ever again with the these so called moderators. There are many other similar
sites that have decided on mature policy. Rpgnet has not. Goodbye
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Moderator Text:
Trans rights are human rights. To deny this is transphobic, period.

RPGnet has been vocally supportive of trans rights for years. You would know this, if you had paid any modicum of attention.

But you're not here for discussion, you're here for a performative stomping of your feet. You are absolutely not here to post in good faith.

Permanently banned under Rule 0.


The utter gumption and depths of political grandstanding with these knobs is incredible.  I can't stop peeking in to watch their triggered responses to any discussion of a game where any of the content or comments one of the devs or IP creator has made that rubs their safe space the wrong way.  It is entertaining.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2020, 03:35:14 PM by Batjon »

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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2020, 03:50:40 PM »
To be blunt; I don’t care. I theoretically still have an active account there, but I don’t even care enough to bother getting it banned. That’s giving them attention they don’t deserve.

Big Purple mods going SJW Nazi is just a day that ends in Y. At some point, after perma-banning everyone else, the second-to-last mod will be perma-banned by the last mod who will jibber to themselves in their echo chamber until the money for hosting it runs out and it vanishes like a vacuum fluctuation back into the digital ether with no one left to even record its demise.

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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2020, 04:03:17 PM »
Every few month I stick my head in and see activity is gradually slowing and slowing, something you'd expect to see the opposite of when RPGs are more popular than ever.

Just let it die it's inevitable and slow death without giving 'em the additional clicks. It'll come to ahead eventually, these types always devour their own.

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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2020, 04:09:30 PM »
I, for one, LURVE the Big Purple.


Oh, not to post there, or even read there... no no nononononono.....

I think it is ever so useful to see exactly what indulging in the their brand of 'nice' leads to.  I hope their death spiral is long and slow and, in fact, never ending.  I would like to live so long as to see RPG.net hosted on a pole as a warning to the next ten generations that some niceties come with too high a price. I would look up at them and grin and give them a little wave...
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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2020, 04:56:45 PM »
Womp, womp.

It takes a mommy and a daddy to make a baby. Saying this is so simple and straightforward that it's TRANSPHOBIC and will get you bannzored for wrongthink.

I'll be happy to watch rpg.net go down the drain, but I do think it's worthwhile to keep up on where the arguments are headed, so you can be prepared to tell them to stuff it when it comes up. As in this RPG author making badwrong statements.


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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2020, 04:57:57 PM »
I object to labeling RPGNet as "Nazi's".  Nothing they have done warrants that categorization, and it's an unfair statement.



They are clearly McCarthyists!

Just switch out "traitor" and "Communist" with "Racist/Sexist/Whatever-phobic".
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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2020, 08:49:47 PM »
I'm not even sure if I have an account there. If I do, it's from about 15 years or so ago. Dunno.

I think I now remember why I don't.

Meh. People like that have been around for centuries. As Bon Jovi said "it's all the same; only the names have changed."  These are the same type who would throw a Jew or a Gay under the bus if it were politically expedient.

Let them choke in their own shit and die lonely and forgotten.
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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2020, 09:43:06 PM »
The mods over there are a bunch of ball bags... I couldn't give a fugg what they are blathering about. Everyone is a 'Nazi' apparently these days...  ;D ;D





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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2020, 11:24:47 PM »
Of course a recent discussion of the Altered Carbon RPG by Hunters Games and Renegade Game Studio devolved into accusations by the RPG.net mod staff that the author of the books that the tv show and RPG is based on made transphobic comments because he made the actual scientific statement that people are born into one of two binary genders.

Actually one of 3 genders, the 3rd being some variant of hermaphrodite. Which is not binary. But technically is. ahem. Rare. But it happens enough that various medical institutions had some form of eugenics protocol to deal with them. And probably still do.

That said. RPG.net being RPG.net should not come as any surprise to anyone.

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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2020, 12:11:55 AM »
The irony is, this is Richard K. Morgan, author of the Altered Carbon and Land Fit for Heroes series, two of the most cynical and unpleasant series of literature ever committed to paper, in which the heroes (a number of whom are gay or lesbian themselves) are mostly indistinguishable from the villains in terms of the violence and atrocity they consider justifiable (e.g., one hero from the fantasy series punishes a female crime lord for selling his cousin into sex slavery by having her gang-raped for a day).

I will never understand the logic that says portraying non-straight heroes as morally problematic almost-monsters is a great strike for benevolent representation, and yet can still be rendered completely irrelevant by one public ideological disagreement.
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2020, 12:55:26 AM »
Quote from:  Nick Cave, Australian singer
Political correctness has grown to become the unhappiest religion in the world. Its once honourable attempt to reimagine our society in a more equitable way now embodies all the worst aspects that religion has to offer (and none of the beauty) — moral certainty and self-righteousness shorn even of the capacity for redemption. It has become quite literally, bad religion run amuck.
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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2020, 05:11:06 AM »
Oh no, net RPG.net!

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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2020, 08:18:48 AM »
A friend of mine pointed out that you can tell a number of the Big Derple Purple mods get their rocks off by justifying swinging that banhammer.

Bethdragon's a pretty egregious example, as seen when she handed Kakita Kojiro a one-day and a thread ban for objecting to someone playing a kender as a raging asshole 'outing' people's sexual proclivities or deviancies. Even more darkly amusing was how she slapped Age of Fable with a thirty-day ban for redtext responding (they don't like the peons backtalking them), 'aggressive responses' (?!), and 'threats of gambling' (what is I don't even...)

The cherry on this whole goofy ass diatribe was this:

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Actually, _yes_, we _do_ want you to be repentant and intimidated, because _maybe_ that would make you think about how you interact with other people and the moderation on this website. And if you don't care about the power to ban you from this website, you won't care when that banning happens.

Drink in that arrogance. That belief that 'lol, you will obey or we'll ban you and you will be cast into the outer darkness forever'. Like Big Derple is the only RPG forum out there.

The faster RPGnet burns to the ground, the better.

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Re: The RPG.Net SJW ban nazis are at it again
« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2020, 08:33:09 AM »
Remember kids though we are the worst place on the Internet.

As usual the more SJW members of the site are silent on the issue which speaks volumes.

When faced with actual repression, regression and intolerance they are nowhere to be seen.

But hey apparently this place is full of right wingers and incels and Rpg.net is bastion of "tolerance" in these dark times.


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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2020, 08:35:18 AM »
Drink in that arrogance. That belief that 'lol, you will obey or we'll ban you and you will be cast into the outer darkness forever'. Like Big Derple is the only RPG forum out there.

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