Quote from: HappyDaze on May 19, 2021, 02:46:59 PM

Quote from: Blankman on May 19, 2021, 02:43:45 PM
Pretty sure hacking into a private server is illegal (I don't live in the US though and am not a lawyer). I wouldn't go around saying I hope someone would do that.

Simply hoping something illegal happens is not itself illegal. It's not the same as encouraging or aiding others to do it.

Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?!

Also pretty sure this is isn't the first time "rpg.net should be hacked" has been expressed in this thread.

Further, you know what I think is in "Backstage"? A bunch of posts from mdoerators complaining about stress, probably posts about "I'm sick today" with well-wishes etc, maybe some discussions on appropriate ban lengths etc. Very probably a lot of shit-talking about individual posters, but this isn't really being run by a sinister cabal, it's the inmates running the asylum so to speak.

Quote from: Blankman on May 19, 2021, 02:54:54 PM

Quote from: HappyDaze on May 19, 2021, 02:46:59 PM

Quote from: Blankman on May 19, 2021, 02:43:45 PM
Pretty sure hacking into a private server is illegal (I don't live in the US though and am not a lawyer). I wouldn't go around saying I hope someone would do that.

Simply hoping something illegal happens is not itself illegal. It's not the same as encouraging or aiding others to do it.

Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?!

Also pretty sure this is isn't the first time "rpg.net should be hacked" has been expressed in this thread.

Sorry, I didn't realize that the poster was someone in authority over you/others and that you might believe his comment to be a command.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron on May 19, 2021, 06:43:31 AM
The great thing is, though, that all this is irrelevant to most gamers. Back when we had gaming clubs in Melbourne in 2019, I'd occasionally mention gaming websites or controversies, and essentially none of the gamers had heard of any of them. They were too busy gaming.

Not just that, but RPG.net is not relevant and has not been relevant since at least 2015 or so. The reason I don't give a shit about it anymore is that by that date they'd gone so far up their own asses that they lost any real power to influence the hobby, which they previously held (and were therefore dangerous). Mainly, they alienated far too many of the publishers. 

Nowadays, ALL forums are irrelevant. The influence on the gaming hobby is happening on social media instead, most notably Twitter and Youtube (also MeWe, but that one mainly with the OSR).

Quote from: Blankman on May 19, 2021, 02:54:54 PM
Also pretty sure this is isn't the first time "rpg.net should be hacked" has been expressed in this thread.

It isn't, but by some freak coincidence I'm pretty sure it was Matt who was expressing that hope earlier in the thread.  Most people don't wish for crimes to occur to people they dislike.

Quote from: RPGPundit on May 19, 2021, 05:18:04 PMNowadays, ALL forums are irrelevant. The influence on the gaming hobby is happening on social media instead, most notably Twitter and Youtube (also MeWe, but that one mainly with the OSR).

Having been completely off social media myself for years (deactivated Facebook nearly ten years ago, never been on Twitter, Instagram or anything else, and only watch YouTube for the music videos), I would certainly buy this, but I'd be interested to hear more about exactly how this operates in practice. Maybe you could do a video talking about your observations and experiences?

Quote from: RPGPundit on May 19, 2021, 05:18:04 PM

Nowadays, ALL forums are irrelevant.

Yep. But they are more suited for certain types of long-form discussion than social medai, so I'm glad they're not gone.

Quote from: Blankman on May 19, 2021, 02:57:03 PM
Further, you know what I think is in "Backstage"? A bunch of posts from mdoerators complaining about stress, probably posts about "I'm sick today" with well-wishes etc, maybe some discussions on appropriate ban lengths etc. Very probably a lot of shit-talking about individual posters, but this isn't really being run by a sinister cabal, it's the inmates running the asylum so to speak.

I don't care what they talk about backstage. The only reason people are curious, I think, is because their moderation is so obfuscated with justifications for them acting like assholes towards the members.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on May 19, 2021, 09:19:32 PM

Quote from: Blankman on May 19, 2021, 02:57:03 PM
Further, you know what I think is in "Backstage"? A bunch of posts from mdoerators complaining about stress, probably posts about "I'm sick today" with well-wishes etc, maybe some discussions on appropriate ban lengths etc. Very probably a lot of shit-talking about individual posters, but this isn't really being run by a sinister cabal, it's the inmates running the asylum so to speak.

I don't care what they talk about backstage. The only reason people are curious, I think, is because their moderation is so obfuscated with justifications for them acting like assholes towards the members.

I just remember one time, way way back when, before the Election and all it brought with it, there was a brouhaha about someone revealing details of Backstage offsite, which was described as breaking the number 1 rule of the moderators.  I remember thinking then "Wait, that's your first priority as moderators? Not 'They did something terrible and injurious to our site and its audience, which is breaking our number 1 rule'?"

Well, time has certainly clarified the mod staff's priorities.

Today, we learn that poking holes in dreams of utopia is threadcrapping.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/harmier2-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-one-day-ban-and-thread-ban.881664/

I really wonder how the mods would react if they couldn't ban people for wrongthink.

Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 20, 2021, 07:55:56 AM
Today, we learn that poking holes in dreams of utopia is threadcrapping.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/harmier2-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-one-day-ban-and-thread-ban.881664/

I really wonder how the mods would react if they couldn't ban people for wrongthink.

The offending post was made on August 22 of 2020. That's almost 9 months ago. The ban came in today. The offending post was made on the first page of that thread, received some push back from other users, and then continued for another 5 pages before basically ending and going dormant on September 22 of 2020. The thread was necromancied back to life yesterday by one of the posters wanting to point out a game-jam related to the topic, and today is when the mod decided he had discovered wrongthink and issued the ban. There is no statute of limitations for sin!

Quote from: wmarshal on May 20, 2021, 08:18:47 AM

Quote from: Ghostmaker on May 20, 2021, 07:55:56 AM
Today, we learn that poking holes in dreams of utopia is threadcrapping.

https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/harmier2-receives-a-%F0%9F%9A%AB-one-day-ban-and-thread-ban.881664/

I really wonder how the mods would react if they couldn't ban people for wrongthink.

The offending post was made on August 22 of 2020. That's almost 9 months ago. The ban came in today. The offending post was made on the first page of that thread, received some push back from other users, and then continued for another 5 pages before basically ending and going dormant on September 22 of 2020. The thread was necromancied back to life yesterday by one of the posters wanting to point out a game-jam related to the topic, and today is when the mod decided he had discovered wrongthink and issued the ban. There is no statute of limitations for sin!

Holy shit, I completely missed that. Good catch.

What an amazingly asinine display by Dawgstar.

It gets worse. Turns out that about a page later in the thread another mod already red-texted the user for threadcapping, so today's ban is just additional punishment applied 9 months later out of the blue.

Quote from: wmarshal on May 20, 2021, 08:35:06 AM
It gets worse. Turns out that about a page later in the thread another mod already red-texted the user for threadcapping, so today's ban is just additional punishment applied 9 months later out of the blue.

Interestingly, it seems Sphinx thought it warranted a redtext but I see no actual infraction stated, nor is there a concurrent post on the Infractions board. Not even a warning or threadban.

Sphinx also redtexted someone for calling out the post as threadcrapping instead of reporting it.

According to harmier2's profile, his last posting was August 29, 2020. His last recorded login was on Feb 13, 2021.

What a pack of retards.

I have to echo the sentiments that RPG forums are, for the most part, totally irrelevant to hobby outside of a small subset of people. Even social media is mostly irrelevant, honestly. Out of the people I play with, only one of them even uses Facebook, and he just trolls dumb memes; I doubt he even knows RPG groups exist on there. My best friend and I have been playing together since 2002 and I doubt he could name one RPG forum or social media group, and this is a guy who I met on a music forum to start a band, so it's not like he has no idea how to use the stuff.

The real issue is that douchelords at WotC seem to think a couple hundred SJWs bitching on Twitter equates to what the market wants. Do they actually DO any market research anymore? The average gamer does not give one fuck about black lesbian elves who are now white or whatever; they just don't. I would guess that most of them just want quality products that don't feature a ton of unnecessary bullshit, virtue signaling, etc. People play games as an escape from the real world, they don't want to be beat over the head with dumbass agendas whenever they play a fantasy game about fruity elves slaughtering evil goblins.