Quote from: Drohem;450641Hehehe... I have fond memories of watching Speed Racer when I was kid (along with Giant Robot and Kimba the White Lion).  It's been years ago now, but my friend bought the Speed Racer DVD with all the shows and we sat down to watch it with great anticipation.  I was sorely disappointed because watching it as an adult shattered the fond memories I had of watching the show when I was a child.  Some things are better left in the past, and it is better to cherish fond memories rather than trying to recapture that fondness later in life.

Same here.  When I was younger, I really liked the D&D and Transformers cartoons from the mid 1980's.

When I watched the D&D cartoon dvd a few years ago, I was sorely disappointed.

Awhile ago I picked up the mid-1980's Transformers cartoon DVDs.  For the most part, I was sorely disappointed too.

I've noticed the same thing when I recently pulled out some old music records or cds of stuff I use to listen to decades ago.  I was wondering how the hell I ever found these heavy metal records fascinating, that I was able to listen to them over and over again when I was younger.

Quote from: J Arcane;450643I attempted to rewatch Robotech recently.

That lasted all of half an episode before even my much more tolerant companion decided this was a bunch of hacky garbage.

I attempted Thundercats, and have not had a moment of nostalgia for any of this shit since.

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;450645I attempted Thundercats, and have not had a moment of nostalgia for any of this shit since.

Same here, when I attempted to watch Beavis and Butthead recently.

(A friend loaned me his Beavis and Butthead dvds).

Very little to no nostalgia whatsoever.

Funny; I acquired all of the original '67 Spider Man cartoons and...yeah.  Yeah not very good.  The 3 year old me was a lot easier to impress.

Behold, for example, the mighty Magneto...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkc_Myyye20&feature=player_embedded

Jeebus.

That is just . . . whole new levels of bad.

Not only just older stuff from decades ago.

I've found that even more recently produced stuff, seems kinda meh or outright crap.

I use to watch CSI a lot back in the early-mid 2000's, but haven't watched in a awhile.  Decided to watch CSI last week, when I was bored and came across it via channel surfing.  Came to the realization how awful it is nowadays.

Quote from: hanszurcher;450558Current reading schedule be damned! On the strength of this review I am going out to pick up His Dark Materials today.

On entertainment value:  The first book is very good, the second book is good, the third book is bad, a total mess, and way too long.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;450655Behold, for example, the mighty Magneto...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkc_Myyye20&feature=player_embedded

That's... that's just something. :rotfl:
"The very sight of that sign offends me!" :rotfl:

I am happy I was a teenage snob who thought those 80s cartoons were beneath him. :cool:

Quote from: J Arcane;450625I find the fetish for the cartoons of the 80s generally sad, and indicative of a generation reaching it's mid life crisis.

Well, in all fairness, I can think of plenty of equally ridiculous things from the 60's that my parents still liked when I was growing up (sadly, I have achieved an age I can actually recall my father being - *shudder*)

Quote from: J Arcane;450643I attempted to rewatch Robotech recently.

That lasted all of half an episode before even my much more tolerant companion decided this was a bunch of hacky garbage.

I had the same experience a couple of years ago with Voltron - my nostalgia slammed into the harsh wall of reality.  Since then, yeah, no more rewatching kids cartoons.  I'll just keep with my memories thanks.

Dangermouse is where it's at.

Well, I was in my late teens when Robotech came on. I liked it then, and I liked it just as much, if not more, a few years ago when I went back and watched the original three Japanese series. Not sure how much that has to do with seeing the series with better music and without the annoying narration.

At the same time (early '80s) I thought most of the other action cartoons were silly kids' stuff, so I have no nostalgia for GI Joe, He-Man, or Transformers. Vehicle Voltron (Dairugger XV) was borderline, but I don't think I'd want to go back.

Still have a fondness for Speed Racer, and I was especially happy to be able to finally see the opening episodes a few years ago, since I'd never seen the "origin". At the time, though, (early '70s) I grew out of it pretty quickly. Would prefer to see the original, which I've heard is a bit rougher (i.e., Speed is a little more of a tough guy), but I'm not under any illusions. That said, the underlying concept & story really is quite good, and could probably be updated if only it weren't given the silly over-the-top nostalgia/parody treatment. I.e., more Sam Raimi, less Wachowski.

The 67 Spiderman is really outstanding for what it is.  The animation is poor but the writing is a fair bit above other shows well into the eighties and the watercolor skies and funky jazz beat background music are brilliant.  There are some really trippy episodes like the one where he's trapped in a walk in freezer and hallucinating or the one where he encounters the alien power of Dementia 5.

Really though, yes, I think many of these concepts had more potential and accumulated value than individual episodic value.

Quote from: two_fishes;450612I found the simpering, obsessive fan-boy desperate for any scrap of detail about his cherished childhood toy way more depressing than the writer. The writer, he seems like, you know, just a guy who had a job. I feel like I wanna slap the fan-boy and tell him, goddammit, grow the fuck up, y'know?

The same thing can be said about guys (now in their late-30's or 40's) who latch on to everything Gary Gygax ever said, as if Gygax was an "Oracle of Delphi".  :rolleyes:

Quote from: ggroy;450686The same thing can be said about guys now in their 40's who latched on to everything Gary Gygax ever said, as if Gygax was an "Oracle of Delphi".  :rolleyes:

This too.

I actually strongly believe they are related impulses.

It wouldn't be too surprising if the vast majority of D&D/AD&D stuff produced by TSR during the Gygax Gygax era, wasn't much more than "throwing spaghetti against the wall and seeing what sticks" just to meet deadlines.

ie. Everything was done "flying by the seat of their pants".