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the power of the D&D brand

Started by Old One Eye, February 28, 2014, 11:58:44 PM

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#30
March 03, 2014, 11:16:26 AM
for a sec, wondered what "butt metal" was.  instead of big hair, big booty?  isn't that rap's purview?

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#31
March 06, 2014, 07:34:42 PM
Like I said, I miss the glory days of D&D's public image as something edgy, dangerous, and satanic.  Its way better than being associated with 40 year old jobless virgins.
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#32
March 06, 2014, 10:11:29 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;735092Like I said, I miss the glory days of D&D's public image as something edgy, dangerous, and satanic.  Its way better than being associated with 40 year old jobless virgins.

Ah the myth of the halcyon days that never were :)

I don't think a game founded by whitecollar midwestern wargamers was ever edgy except in the eyes of other whitecollar midwestern wargamers ....

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#33
March 06, 2014, 10:22:58 PM
Quote from: jibbajibba;735119Ah the myth of the halcyon days that never were :)

I'm pretty sure this is how those "edgy" DnD players were envisioned back in '80s:

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Warlord Kro

#34
March 06, 2014, 10:58:20 PM
Quote from: Endless Flight;734203I bought the "black box" D&D set at Toys 'R Us in 1991. I also bought Top Secret SI about the same time, maybe a year before.

I seem to remember reading that that black box set (I think it was a re-editing of Mentzer with levels 1-5 included, right?) was the highest selling D&D game rule set ever.  Is that correct?  

I always thought that it was odd since I never came across that set, ever. Not in stores at the time, not in hobby shops, and only very rarely even on ebay to this day.

JeremyR

#35
March 07, 2014, 12:39:55 AM
Quote from: Rincewind1;735120I'm pretty sure this is how those "edgy" DnD players were envisioned back in '80s:


It was certainly dying down by '84, but the satanic panic was still going.

I guess it finally reached its peak stupid in '88 when Geraldo had his special.

Alathon

#36
March 07, 2014, 03:17:57 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit;735092Like I said, I miss the glory days of D&D's public image as something edgy, dangerous, and satanic.  Its way better than being associated with 40 year old jobless virgins.

That association exists, but I think the OP has the right of it.  If I'm running a Mutants and Masterminds campaign and I need to be out the door at work, I don't say that, I say I have a D&D game I want to get to, because everyone knows what that means.  MtG may be a huge moneymaker but I don't feel like it has the same sort of cultural penetration that D&D achieved, at least here in the States.

Haffrung

#37
March 07, 2014, 11:05:51 AM
That satanic scare didn't make D&D seem dangerous and edgy; it was all about adolescent schoolkids being corrupted. D&D was about as 'edgy' as peanut allergies. Peanut allergies suffered by dorky 13-year-olds.

And even the satanic thing was confined largely to religious regions of the U.S. Everywhere else, disapproval of D&D was more of a 'you kids need to stop playing so much intellivision and go outside to get some fresh air' level of concern.
 

Sacrosanct

#38
March 07, 2014, 11:09:11 AM
Quote from: Haffrung;735205That satanic scare didn't make D&D seem dangerous and edgy; it was all about adolescent schoolkids being corrupted. D&D was about as 'edgy' as peanut allergies. Peanut allergies suffered by dorky 13-year-olds.

And even the satanic thing was confined largely to religious regions of the U.S. Everywhere else, disapproval of D&D was more of a 'you kids need to stop playing so much intellivision and go outside to get some fresh air' level of concern.


No kidding.  "Edgy" and "Dangerous" were the Bloods, or the Crips, or the Skinheads.

D&D player?  Yeah, I don't think society was scared of D&D players lol
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#39
March 07, 2014, 11:19:16 AM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;735207No kidding.  "Edgy" and "Dangerous" were the Bloods, or the Crips, or the Skinheads.

Or over the last decade or so, "Jihadists".

Bedrockbrendan

#40
March 07, 2014, 11:57:53 AM
Quote from: jibbajibba;735119Ah the myth of the halcyon days that never were :)

I don't think a game founded by whitecollar midwestern wargamers was ever edgy except in the eyes of other whitecollar midwestern wargamers ....

You know what you thought when you say that goth guy in his leather trench coat and kiss makup buying his copy of Vampire in 1992 that was everybody else thought about D&D players in 1978

Among gamers it wasn't considered edgy, because we knew it was largely just us nerds and geeks. But here in the states, in the 80s, among non-gamers it had a pretty dark reputation. The reputation never matched the reality, of course. At the time though, i remember hearing how gamers did drugs, worshipped the devil and killed each other in sewers (as if doing one of those things alone wasn't enough).

Bedrockbrendan

#41
March 07, 2014, 12:03:37 PM
Quote from: Haffrung;735205And even the satanic thing was confined largely to religious regions of the U.S. Everywhere else, disapproval of D&D was more of a 'you kids need to stop playing so much intellivision and go outside to get some fresh air' level of concern.

But that is a good chunk of the US. My parents were liberals from boston, and even I had my books confiscated and the game forbidden while living in Southern California (which has its deeply religious areas). When my mother told me not to play D&D, ot wasn't because the lack of outside activity, it was because she genuinely thought it was the devil's game. I think outside the US, it may not have been as noticeable. But here the notion that gamers were geeky fantasy nerds, wasn't something i encountered until the 90s.

Bedrockbrendan

#42
March 07, 2014, 12:07:57 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;735207No kidding.  "Edgy" and "Dangerous" were the Bloods, or the Crips, or the Skinheads.

D&D player?  Yeah, I don't think society was scared of D&D players lol

Again, it depended on where you lived. I spent five years in southern california where the crips and bloods were an actual concern (to the point that we couldn't where their colors on school grounds and had security guards). But it was also a deeply religious community and i personally heard more about the evils and dangers of D&D from parents than i did about the evils and dangers of gangs. There was a real paranoia in the air back then, in places like this, that seems crazy today but people genuinely believed stuff like Mazes and Monsters was real.

Saplatt

#43
March 07, 2014, 12:09:27 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;735219...she genuinely thought it was the devil's game...

Oh crap.  You mean it's not?

Rincewind1

#44
March 07, 2014, 12:13:14 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;735216Among gamers it wasn't considered edgy, because we knew it was largely just us nerds and geeks. But here in the states, in the 80s, among non-gamers it had a pretty dark reputation. The reputation never matched the reality, of course. At the time though, i remember hearing how gamers did drugs, worshipped the devil and killed each other in sewers (as if doing one of those things alone wasn't enough).

One out of three isn't a bad score :D.
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