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The peripheral community that is a f*cking pox on our hobby

Started by Quire, August 05, 2008, 01:54:19 PM

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gleichman

#240
August 07, 2008, 01:34:14 PM
Quote from: Stuart;233094Then to approach that from a "gamist" perspective is exactly the same as a "narrativist" perspective.

Circular reasoning. These are games, thus if one wishes to one may always play the logic you just did and end up at the same place under nearly all conditions.

However to do so, you have to ignore the defintions put forth- i.e. Gamists are defined as people who are not seeking the best story or exploration of theme.

You're doing the old 1 = 2 proof thing, and hoping no one noticed you've divided by zero. Sorry, it doesn't work.

GNS however is crap even so. Just find a better way of pointing that out please.
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Blackleaf

#241
August 07, 2008, 01:44:39 PM
Quote from: GleichmanYou're doing the old 1 = 2 proof thing, and hoping no one noticed you've divided by zero. Sorry, it doesn't work.

Likewise.

Ian Absentia

#242
August 07, 2008, 01:52:22 PM
Quote from: Settembrini;232083Collecting is good. Only collectors can become great DMs.
I don't know guys.  I got a good chuckle out of this. :D

!i!

[Edit: Holy crap.  Page 25 of replies already?  I'm really behind the curve here.]

Alnag

#243
August 07, 2008, 04:31:59 PM
Quote from: Settembrini;233095I´d like clarify. Orthodox GNS is a direct result of the unreflected spread of  pseudo science: evolutionary psychology.

Would you mind to elaborate that. I like evolutionary psychology (actually I was testing some its hypothesis in my master thesis) yet disagree firmly with GNS.
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Quire

#244
August 07, 2008, 05:00:49 PM
Not so much 'thread-drift' as ranting like complete self-obsessed twats.

Tell you what, let's speculate on whether or not the forthcoming Watchmen movie could live up to the comic or not.

Or whether any Western nation should have boycotted the Olympics on human rights grounds.

How sustainable is Apple's recent growth? Can they keep out-gadgeting Microsoft?

Hell! It's all about as relevant to the _fucking_ OP as this drivel, isn't it? DIG IN MOFOS!

Fucking hell.

Pseudoephedrine

#245
August 07, 2008, 05:13:50 PM
Quote from: Alnag;233174Would you mind to elaborate that. I like evolutionary psychology (actually I was testing some its hypothesis in my master thesis) yet disagree firmly with GNS.

While I disagree with Sett that it's the cause of GNS, EvoPsych _is_ a pretty good example of pseudo-science as it's currently practiced, and Ron Edwards is drawing on it in the infamous Brain Damage article.

Quire> Go fucking whine somewhere else, you dumb cunt.

You haven't responded to the examples I gave yesterday. If you're not even going to make the effort to talk about the things that you started the thread about, don't complain when we start talking about other things.
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Quire

#246
August 07, 2008, 05:20:54 PM
Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;233204Quire> Go fucking whine somewhere else, you dumb cunt.

You haven't responded to the examples I gave yesterday. If you're not even going to make the effort to talk about the things that you started the thread about, don't complain when we start talking about other things.

If you hadn't wandered off into doodoolala-land yourself, there might have been a fucking chance to do so.

As it is, your examples included "I don't like fiction in my gamebooks" and "that actor/mod collects ALL those damn books".

That's as far as you got, Pseudo, so lay off the "dumb cunt"s.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm ambivalent about fiction in gamebooks, and I couldn't give a shit about about whether a guy that was in The Royal Tenembaums wants to buy everything White Wolf publishes.

When you come up with some arguments that hold water, I'll respond, you dumb cunt. Until then, wind your fat ugly thick-framed glasses trunk back into your fucking ugly bald head and continue spouting your routine bullshit.

Pseudoephedrine

#247
August 07, 2008, 05:45:18 PM
Now you're just being a whiny little puss. You're tossing my examples out because you're angry I called you a "dumb cunt" rather than because they're bad examples. They show how someone who collects rather than games can become the writer for a gaming company and the moderator for a gaming website; how game fiction takes away space from gaming material profitably by converting the book into the sort of light fiction collectors want, and how a particular line changes over time to appeal to people who prefer talking about a game rather than people interested in playing the game (Exalted-as-Voltron).

If that's not the kind of directly relevant evidence you're looking for, then I can't think of anything that would satisfy you, you self-righteous arse-dripping.
Running
The Pernicious Light, or The Wreckers of Sword Island;
A Goblin\'s Progress, or Of Cannons and Canons;
An Oration on the Dignity of Tash, or On the Elves and Their Lies
All for S&W Complete
Playing: Dark Heresy, WFRP 2e

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Quire

#248
August 07, 2008, 07:24:11 PM
Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;233218Now you're just being a whiny little puss.

I know you are, but what am I? Quid pro quo.

Fair enough Pseudo, and _you're_ just pissed that I didn't discount _you_ from the mass of self-obsessed twats. I would have - should have - thanked you for at least responding to the point, but when you toss out a "dumb cunt" point ...well fuck you bud.

Very-nearly-imaginative insults (from both parties) aside, I STILL feel ambivalent about game fiction, and STILL don't care about Stephen's book-collecting habit. The idea that he doesn't/hasn't/won't play seems quite ridiculous. I really don't think he counts, no matter how busy he is right now. You're not...JEALOUS of him, are you? *joke*

If a gamebook has (yet) another little story rather than more beastie stats, or chase rules, or another character class... I do not see how that is a pox on the hobby. It's a flavour I might not like the taste of, but how is it a pox on the hobby? Or is it only a pox on the hobby if I don't like the taste of it?

I'm really hoping to find out more. Even though I'm a self-righteous arse-dripping. *fesses up*

Aos

#249
August 07, 2008, 07:50:17 PM
There's an ointment for that.


P.S. I think I did answer the question at some, point, but i did participate in the crazy thread drift too.  I'm sorry about your cunt, though.
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Quire

#250
August 07, 2008, 07:58:22 PM
Quote from: Aos;233265There's an ointment for that.

I'm sitting in a puddle of it even as I type. Squidgy.


Quote from: Aos;233265P.S. I think I did answer the question at some, point, but i did participate in the crazy thread drift too.  I'm sorry about your cunt, though.

You did. Both of those things. I'm not going to hold it against you though.

It's covered in ointment, and I don't want to spoil your lovely red cyberbiker gear.

David R

#251
August 07, 2008, 07:58:32 PM
Quote from: Quire;233197Fucking hell.

Don't know why you're getting so upset. At least people talk about stuff on your threads....

Regards,
David R

Quire

#252
August 07, 2008, 08:00:56 PM
Quote from: David R;233269Don't know why you're getting so upset. At least people talk about stuff on your threads....

I've never noticed before that Johnny's helmet looks like it's made out of the end of a HUGE banana.

David R

#253
August 07, 2008, 08:02:13 PM
Quote from: Quire;233270I've never noticed before that Johnny's helmet looks like it's made out of the end of a HUGE banana.

Finally somebody besides me....

Regards,
David R

oktoberguard

#254
August 07, 2008, 11:20:56 PM
Quote from: Quire;233197Not so much 'thread-drift' as ranting like complete self-obsessed twats.

sorry about that. i didn't mean to be a dick. won't happen again.
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