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The OneDnD Agenda

Started by RPGPundit, August 20, 2022, 12:38:33 AM

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Jam The MF

Let the Dice, Decide the Outcome.  Accept the Results.

Jaeger

Quote from: Jam The MF on September 26, 2022, 09:49:01 PM
Will One D&D have an OGL?

It's 5e. This is not a new edition according to WOTC. The OGL already exists...

In my opinion it serves WotC's purposes to be able to say that they have an OGL - yet never update it with the OneDnD changes..
"The envious are not satisfied with equality; they secretly yearn for superiority and revenge."

Jam The MF

Quote from: Jaeger on September 26, 2022, 09:58:27 PM
Quote from: Jam The MF on September 26, 2022, 09:49:01 PM
Will One D&D have an OGL?

It's 5e. This is not a new edition according to WOTC. The OGL already exists...

In my opinion it serves WotC's purposes to be able to say that they have an OGL - yet never update it with the OneDnD changes..

I meant with the One D&D changes included.  Will they allow 3rd party content to be 100% compatible with One D&D?
Let the Dice, Decide the Outcome.  Accept the Results.

Ruprecht

The question, will they replace the existing 5E SDR with the newly updated one.
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing. ~Robert E. Howard

Omega

Good question.

I think they will do again like they did with 5e. At first deny a SRD and cancel any translation agreements.

Then realize they just shot themselves in the foot... again. And open it up. Again.

Its WOTC. Never expect anything sane. If its stupid and hurts the brand. They WILL consider doing it and odds are high they WILL then do it.

Dropbear

There isn't anything that really appeals to me about the OneD&D playtest material more than the original rules that they released in '15.

It only swings me further away from wanting to use their game to pretend to be an elf than 5E does.

wmarshal

Quote from: Dropbear on September 28, 2022, 12:31:16 PM
There isn't anything that really appeals to me about the OneD&D playtest material more than the original rules that they released in '15.

It only swings me further away from wanting to use their game to pretend to be an elf than 5E does.
Just saw part of one of their videos where they're apparently trying to tie feats to having level and class type requirements. They're not going in the wrong direction with Wokeness, but mechanically as well. I don't know many whose complaint about 5th Ed is that they wanted to go back to feat trees. Just more opportunity for the OSR to expand.

VisionStorm

#322
I'm not a fan of feat-trees or tying feats to classes, but I'm a fan of feats, as a concept at least. And the ones they included in the Character Origins document looked pretty good. They didn't include any of the higher level ones, so I'm not sure if they're really gonna mess them up, or how badly yet.

Like I've said here and elsewhere, I liked most of the changes they made in the released document so far, just not the rationale for getting rid of racial modifiers. But at least going with what's included in the document, background modifiers aren't even set in stone, cuz custom Backgrounds are a standard option. So you can just use the existing backgrounds as a baseline to determine your proficiencies and feats, if you like any of them (or just build your background 100% from scratch), then set the ASIs by using the old racial modifiers as a basis instead.

People are just drowning themselves in a glass of water over a largely meaningless change that can be easily ignored or even bypassed by going with the established rules (without even having to house rule anything), like the change never took place.

Zelen

Does anyone have the actual documents for OneDnD, or is it all locked up behind D&DBeyond?

VisionStorm

Quote from: Zelen on September 29, 2022, 03:59:35 PM
Does anyone have the actual documents for OneDnD, or is it all locked up behind D&DBeyond?

You can get it free from here: https://www.dndbeyond.com/one-dnd

Don't know if you need an account to download it (I was already logged in when I did it, so don't know how it works without one), but I only have a free account and never bought anything from them, and was able to download it without problems.

Omega

Quote from: VisionStorm on September 29, 2022, 04:27:08 PM
Quote from: Zelen on September 29, 2022, 03:59:35 PM
Does anyone have the actual documents for OneDnD, or is it all locked up behind D&DBeyond?

You can get it free from here: https://www.dndbeyond.com/one-dnd

Don't know if you need an account to download it (I was already logged in when I did it, so don't know how it works without one), but I only have a free account and never bought anything from them, and was able to download it without problems.

Need to be logged in to access.

blackstone

Tenkar's Tavern had a discussion about this recently on YouTube.
When it comes to the OGL and SRD: apparently there was a court case about it with WoTC and the judge ruled that the OGL and SRD cannot be replaced. they exist in perpetuity. Has something to do with game mechanics (cannot be copyrighted?)

PulpHerb

Quote from: Jam The MF on September 26, 2022, 11:04:42 PM
Quote from: Jaeger on September 26, 2022, 09:58:27 PM
Quote from: Jam The MF on September 26, 2022, 09:49:01 PM
Will One D&D have an OGL?

It's 5e. This is not a new edition according to WOTC. The OGL already exists...

In my opinion it serves WotC's purposes to be able to say that they have an OGL - yet never update it with the OneDnD changes..

I meant with the One D&D changes included.  Will they allow 3rd party content to be 100% compatible with One D&D?

I suspect access to the changes will require selling third party product through their OneD&D site, giving them much more control over what compatible products can include.

PulpHerb

Quote from: wmarshal on September 29, 2022, 12:58:24 PM
Just saw part of one of their videos where they're apparently trying to tie feats to having level and class type requirements. They're not going in the wrong direction with Wokeness, but mechanically as well. I don't know many whose complaint about 5th Ed is that they wanted to go back to feat trees. Just more opportunity for the OSR to expand.

I wonder if that's aimed at Pathfinder players, especially 2e ones.

Ghostmaker

Quote from: PulpHerb on September 30, 2022, 12:09:56 PM
Quote from: wmarshal on September 29, 2022, 12:58:24 PM
Just saw part of one of their videos where they're apparently trying to tie feats to having level and class type requirements. They're not going in the wrong direction with Wokeness, but mechanically as well. I don't know many whose complaint about 5th Ed is that they wanted to go back to feat trees. Just more opportunity for the OSR to expand.

I wonder if that's aimed at Pathfinder players, especially 2e ones.
Which is hilarious, since most PF2E feats are more like SWADE edges in my opinion. They typically do have a skill-level requirement, but if you're playing with those feat trees anyways you should have that in the bag. The retraining rules also allow for PCs to adjust if they grab something that doesn't work out for them.