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The Importance Of Diversity And Representation In The Hobby
CD:
"Diversity And Representation In The Hobby" is meaningless, let me make my case -
https://youtu.be/JvPeGvKC5do
Banjo Destructo:
I honestly think real diversity in friend groups is a good thing, liberal bubbles need more real conservative friends, and vice versa.
oggsmash:
--- Quote from: Banjo Destructo on September 17, 2021, 09:06:36 AM ---I honestly think real diversity in friend groups is a good thing, liberal bubbles need more real conservative friends, and vice versa.
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I have to be honest, I think a WHOLE lot of very lefty people clamoring for diversity and always talking inclusion tend to be very white in their persona, as well as their peer/friend groups. I think they either grew up in a fairly homogenous place, and played ZERO contact sports. I grew up playing sports (certain sports, like football and track, if your area is not lily white, you are going to make some non white friends) and had as diverse a friend group as the area I was in allowed (we had lots of white people and proportionately large population of black people (around 30 percent) by who was there. In the military, again very diverse population and friend group. I think the real issue with lots and lots of these folks who are in a liberal bubble is they do not know very many black, or brown people on a personal level. One or two? maybe, but lots? probably not. This is why they often refer to people in different groups as just that, groups instead of individuals. The first dungeons and dragons game I played at school in the 5th grade had 3 white players and 3 black players. At the time I am not sure we had any other race/ethnicity in the school. How much more inclusive do rpgs have to be? As the video says, you can be anything you want, and play in any world you like.
These guys come up to me TO THIS DAY and talk about how much fun we had playing (we got shut down after about 5 sessions due to a teacher and the librarian's satanic panic). So for the most part, more and more I think a whole bunch of these people demanding "diversity" just grew up in homogeneous (and for the most part I would bet upper middle class and white neighborhoods/school districts) places and assume their "reality" was all of reality.
Banjo Destructo:
--- Quote from: oggsmash on September 17, 2021, 09:17:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: Banjo Destructo on September 17, 2021, 09:06:36 AM ---I honestly think real diversity in friend groups is a good thing, liberal bubbles need more real conservative friends, and vice versa.
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I have to be honest, I think a WHOLE lot of very lefty people clamoring for diversity and always talking inclusion tend to be very white in their persona, as well as their peer/friend groups. I think they either grew up in a fairly homogenous place, and played ZERO contact sports. I grew up playing sports (certain sports, like football and track, if your area is not lily white, you are going to make some non white friends) and had as diverse a friend group as the area I was in allowed (we had lots of white people and proportionately large population of black people (around 30 percent) by who was there. In the military, again very diverse population and friend group. I think the real issue with lots and lots of these folks who are in a liberal bubble is they do not know very many black, or brown people on a personal level. One or two? maybe, but lots? probably not. This is why they often refer to people in different groups as just that, groups instead of individuals. The first dungeons and dragons game I played at school in the 5th grade had 3 white players and 3 black players. At the time I am not sure we had any other race/ethnicity in the school. How much more inclusive do rpgs have to be? As the video says, you can be anything you want, and play in any world you like.
These guys come up to me TO THIS DAY and talk about how much fun we had playing (we got shut down after about 5 sessions due to a teacher and the librarian's satanic panic). So for the most part, more and more I think a whole bunch of these people demanding "diversity" just grew up in homogeneous (and for the most part I would bet upper middle class and white neighborhoods/school districts) places and assume their "reality" was all of reality.
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Oh yeah, I agree. I think people who clamor FOR diversity are like... whats the word... well they don't really know what they're talking about because they want to help spread their orthodoxy, they're evangelists of their faith. But they don't understand. They think "What" you are has to be "who" you are, instead of "who" you are being different from "what" you are.
They are also suffering from a devastating lack of diversity in their friend groups who can tell them that these ideas are full of shit.
rytrasmi:
--- Quote from: CondorDM on September 17, 2021, 08:23:28 AM ---"Diversity And Representation In The Hobby" is meaningless, let me make my case -
https://youtu.be/JvPeGvKC5do
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"You can play a character that is not your sex or not your color."
Oh, no you didn't!! /s
There are people who would disagree with you on that, but those people don't understand role playing games or are against them. Anyway, your comments are solid and common sense, which is lacking these days.
I've noticed that the people who are most adamant about these types of causes in role playing games tend to not play much or at all. They are busybodies. At best, they are new the hobby, have played a little, and never GMed.
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