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The Importance Of Diversity And Representation In The Hobby

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S'mon:
Gaming in England, I think it's important I (myself a mixed race Anglo-Eireann) have a diverse group of Angles, Jutes AND Saxons. Possibly even some players with ancestry in the old Danelaw, or who came over with William the Conqueror. Not forgetting my fellow Celtic Fringers. Even if they/we can be a bit wild.

When I first came to London, it was years before I played D&D with an Englishman. But representation of Indigenous Communities is important.

Mithgarthr:

--- Quote from: S'mon on September 17, 2021, 11:39:53 AM ---Gaming in England, I think it's important I (myself a mixed race Anglo-Eireann) have a diverse group of Angles, Jutes AND Saxons. Possibly even some players with ancestry in the old Danelaw, or who came over with William the Conqueror. Not forgetting my fellow Celtic Fringers. Even if they/we can be a bit wild.

When I first came to London, it was years before I played D&D with an Englishman. But representation of Indigenous Communities is important.

--- End quote ---

Angles, Jutes, Saxons, and Danes but no Gauls?

Literally the perfect group.  Sign me up.  8)

Ghostmaker:
If you don't play 'persons of color' you're white washing, and if you do play persons of color, you're appropriating/gentrifying.

The wise words of Joshua come to mind.

"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."

tenbones:
I literally had no idea that "diversity" in gaming was even an "issue" until leftist white people from the Pacific Northwest started screaming about it.

My regular groups - not counting players that came and went, and girl/boyfriends that dipped in and out.

LA Group #1 - Me (Asian), Mexican-Canadian guy, three black guys, an Indonesian guy, a white guy
LA Group #2 - Me, two Greek guys, a Afghani, a Greek girl, a gay Spaniard, a American white guy
LA Group #3 - Me, two Filipinos guys, a Guamanian/Filipino mutant male (I think), a Japanese guy, a Hawaiaan/Samoan hybrid experiment.
Current Group - Me, a Portuguese guy, three white guys (but one I'm not sure about as he's got a 70's softcore porn female name that sounds Hispanic), and this Italian white guy with Turkish roots.

The only thing we have in common is we all love to play RPG's. In some cases we're diametrically opposed politically and different religions - but at no point was it ever an issue over years and years of gaming.

Precisely zero curation based on race. And yes, I was living in SoCal so there's a lot of people from *everywhere*. I ran all three groups during the week, in the same campaign world, we'd interchange players as needed though all the groups were doing different stuff, and this went on for well over 20 years with some of them.

When I ran games the local LA cons for years - tons of people from all walks of life. Tons of smells there too, not of this Earth. Very diverse.

It wasn't until I moved to Dallas in 95 that I had a predominantly white group. And even then I never noticed until all this discussion about race and gender in the hobby became a thing. What annoys the fuck out of me and my players is that these fuckheads living in their bubble don't see how diverse the hobby already was. They are the one that fetishize people of other ethnicities and are trying to save us (oddly from people that vaguely look like them once you strip away the chromatic hair, clonespeak, and tendency to shriek.)

Anecdotal they might say. I might say "Don't deny my Truth", if it I didn't know how retarded that actually sounded. It's *really* creepy to watch people filled with such self-loathing, seeking for an outlet to spew their self-hate on, and collectively constructing this narrative in which to do it. Unfortunately at our expense.

Like I said they're drunk on their own urine and fumes. It might be too late for them to recover, but that's not my problem.



Stephen Tannhauser:

--- Quote from: Banjo Destructo on September 17, 2021, 09:06:36 AM ---I honestly think real diversity in friend groups is a good thing, liberal bubbles need more real conservative friends, and vice versa.

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Agreed. What most people forget is that what is wanted, for a really interesting cast of characters in any imagined narrative, is a diverse representation of experience and perspective. Your characters all have to want different things based on the different lives they've lived, and they have to have their own ideas about what that means and how to get it.

SJ fandom's tragic mistake is to assume that mere demographic diversity is a reliable proxy for this quality (which is a bit of a reflex prejudice in and of itself), coupled with the toxic entitlement syndrome which says you have a right to a protagonist who not only "represents" your group, but does so as a positive and admirable example, in any and every narrative you wish.

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