Quote from: Koltar on October 11, 2023, 12:50:35 PM
"Exalted"

Anyone remember "EXALTED" ?

Wasn't that an 'SJ
W' role playing game?

-Ed C.

  Exalted was rooted in the exuberant, irreverent, highly libertine spirit of the young progressives of the early 00s. Current progressives are still as libertine and irreverent of traditional pieties, but sterner and demanding more overt and strident mouthing of their heresies and worship of the Beast.

Quote from: Koltar on October 11, 2023, 12:50:35 PM
"Exalted"

Anyone remember "EXALTED" ?

Wasn't that an 'SJ
W' role playing game?

-Ed C.

exalted is like an unTolkien unAbrahamic fantasy setting.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on October 11, 2023, 02:10:39 PM
Exalted was rooted in the exuberant, irreverent, highly libertine spirit of the young progressives of the early 00s.

Ah, how I miss those days, before we started winning the culture wars on most fronts and became the sort of sanctimonious bullies we used to decry. I didn't know any better.

I guess that is what human 'victory' is - pulling up the ladder behind you, snidely settling old scores, rewriting the history books, waiting in total paranoia for the backlash to topple you, and then repeating the process. Sigh.

Quote from: Exploderwizard on October 11, 2023, 07:39:33 AM
Money generated by a kickstarter is no guarantee of game quality. Whether a game raises several million on KS or less than 50k makes no difference. All that matters is the game play and how many people love the final product and actually play it.

Money raised on KS is no guarantee you'll get a game at all.

Quote from: Omega on October 11, 2023, 07:09:57 PM

Quote from: Exploderwizard on October 11, 2023, 07:39:33 AM
Money generated by a kickstarter is no guarantee of game quality. Whether a game raises several million on KS or less than 50k makes no difference. All that matters is the game play and how many people love the final product and actually play it.

Money raised on KS is no guarantee you'll get a game at all.

Ain't that the truth. I see backing games on KS akin to paying for a mystery loot bundle (assuming it isn't a complete scam). You pay good money for something of unknown quality and quantity. Sometimes you receive it and can't believe the bargain that you got. Other times you look at what you got and it's like " I got a rock."

Quote from: Omega on October 11, 2023, 07:09:57 PM

Quote from: Exploderwizard on October 11, 2023, 07:39:33 AM
Money generated by a kickstarter is no guarantee of game quality. Whether a game raises several million on KS or less than 50k makes no difference. All that matters is the game play and how many people love the final product and actually play it.

Money raised on KS is no guarantee you'll get a game at all.

Yeah. The only times I've supported a Kickstarter is when I personally know the person doing it. I find the popularity of it weird. I generally get interested in a game after I've read hear talk about how it actually plays, and/or actually play it as a one-shot.

Sure, a flash-in-the-pan Kickstarter isn't a mark of quality. Even being long-term popular isn't a sure mark of quality. I accept that what I like and think of as best isn't what everyone else likes. I like some popular things, but I also hate some popular things.

In general, I think RPG players are found all across the population and the political spectrum. There are death row prisoners who play RPGs, and there are political extremists who play RPGs. There are people with opposed values to me who still enjoy RPGs, and it doesn't change how or what I play.

Quote from: jhkim on October 12, 2023, 02:34:49 AM

Quote from: Omega on October 11, 2023, 07:09:57 PM

Quote from: Exploderwizard on October 11, 2023, 07:39:33 AM
Money generated by a kickstarter is no guarantee of game quality. Whether a game raises several million on KS or less than 50k makes no difference. All that matters is the game play and how many people love the final product and actually play it.

Money raised on KS is no guarantee you'll get a game at all.

In general, I think RPG players are found all across the population and the political spectrum. There are death row prisoners who play RPGs, and there are political extremists who play RPGs. There are people with opposed values to me who still enjoy RPGs, and it doesn't change how or what I play.

On that last part:

Yes, it doesn't change the way you play, but the majority of SJWs want to change the way you and everyone else plays.

Therin lies the problem.

Not just an labour of hate he came off as an hypocrite when he went back on his comments that only non-whites could play his rpg. Who would have thought that telling one of the largest segments of gamers to not play your rpg due to their skin colour would backfire.

Honestly we are shocked shocked I tell you!

Quote from: Abraxus on October 12, 2023, 09:43:45 AM
Not just an labour of hate he came off as an hypocrite when he went back on his comments that only non-whites could play his rpg. Who would have thought that telling one of the largest segments of gamers to not play your rpg due to their skin colour would backfire.

Honestly we are shocked shocked I tell you!

So my wife can play it, but she'd be playing alone, because virtually all her friends are white.

From a "money is success" perspective, many RPG kick starters are very successful. But maybe another measure of success is how many people are playing the game? How robust is the community of people playing it - are they creating tons of fan content for it? etc.

Lots of games have great kickstarters that bring in a ton of money, but seem to fail on the second part.

Quote from: PencilBoy99 on October 12, 2023, 10:11:14 AM
From a "money is success" perspective, many RPG kick starters are very successful. But maybe another measure of success is how many people are playing the game? How robust is the community of people playing it - are they creating tons of fan content for it? etc.

Lots of games have great kickstarters that bring in a ton of money, but seem to fail on the second part.

Just like the latest woke Marvel/Disney movies: first weekend it rocks the box office, after that the word gets out that it's garbage, and tanks in the 2nd or 3rd week (and to be honest, most Disney garbage doesn't even break even anymore. box office bombs aplenty)

It's like there's a connection: woke = BROKE

Quote from: Abraxus on October 12, 2023, 09:43:45 AM
Not just an labour of hate he came off as an hypocrite when he went back on his comments that only non-whites could play his rpg. Who would have thought that telling one of the largest segments of gamers to not play your rpg due to their skin colour would backfire.

Honestly we are shocked shocked I tell you!

He backtracked on the "no whites" but made it so much worse by telling white people they have to play within a little box of acceptable behavior.  Yeah, I love being bullied by ideologues while trying to enjoy my leisure activities.

Quote from: blackstone on October 12, 2023, 07:23:07 AM

Quote from: jhkim on October 12, 2023, 02:34:49 AM
In general, I think RPG players are found all across the population and the political spectrum. There are death row prisoners who play RPGs, and there are political extremists who play RPGs. There are people with opposed values to me who still enjoy RPGs, and it doesn't change how or what I play.

On that last part:

Yes, it doesn't change the way you play, but the majority of SJWs want to change the way you and everyone else plays.

If it doesn't change the way I play, then why should I care? In particular, why should I care if there's a successful or failed RPG for people with different politics and/or gaming tastes than me?

To be clear - I have political causes, and I care about them. But I don't see RPGs as a way to further my political causes.

I care about how my political opposition vote. But I don't care if they have fun playing RPGs that they enjoy, or whether they play RPGs at all.

Quote from: Trond on October 12, 2023, 10:07:38 AM

Quote from: Abraxus on October 12, 2023, 09:43:45 AM
Not just an labour of hate he came off as an hypocrite when he went back on his comments that only non-whites could play his rpg. Who would have thought that telling one of the largest segments of gamers to not play your rpg due to their skin colour would backfire.

Honestly we are shocked shocked I tell you!

So my wife can play it, but she'd be playing alone, because virtually all her friends are white.

Heh. I hope they release solo modules for all these lonley gamers.

It's well worth pointing out that SJW entertainment on all fronts is failing.  Movies, TV, cartoons, comics, books, they are all failing.  They are all failing for the same reason, low quality.  RPGs certainly not the only area where SJWs are proving that they are unable to be successful.