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The Escapist: The Ghost of D&D's Future

Started by Benoist, December 30, 2011, 04:54:59 PM

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misterguignol

#405
January 09, 2012, 01:59:49 AM
Quote from: Darwinism;502108Also, 1-for-1 diagonal actually maps to reality better than 1-2-1.

You heard it here first, "4e: It's realistic."

It perfectly maps to the reality of moving an arbitrary number of "squares" based on "race" during your "turn."  Just like life.

Pseudoephedrine

#406
January 09, 2012, 02:08:17 AM
Squares are the worst. Use a whiteboard and a tape measure and then you don't have to worry about squares and crap. What used to be square blasts etc. become circles with a diameter in inches equal to the number of squares. I found it way easier to run battles in 4e doing that.
Running
The Pernicious Light, or The Wreckers of Sword Island;
A Goblin\'s Progress, or Of Cannons and Canons;
An Oration on the Dignity of Tash, or On the Elves and Their Lies
All for S&W Complete
Playing: Dark Heresy, WFRP 2e

"Elves don\'t want you cutting down trees but they sell wood items, they don\'t care about the forests, they\'\'re the fuckin\' wood mafia." -Anonymous

misterguignol

#407
January 09, 2012, 02:11:06 AM
Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;502118Squares are the worst. Use a whiteboard and a tape measure and then you don't have to worry about squares and crap. What used to be square blasts etc. become circles with a diameter in inches equal to the number of squares. I found it way easier to run battles in 4e doing that.

I've actually been playing 4e as a skirmish-size mini wargame using "army lists" made from the Monster Vault using tape measure and round burst and blast templates.  Works a treat.

Peregrin

#408
January 09, 2012, 02:13:26 AM
WotC is announcing something.  But nobody knows what it is. Or they do and they're not telling.  But it's happening this week.  Monday.  Or Tuesday.  In the morning.  Or the evening.  And it's going to be covered by the NYT.  Supposedly.  Maybe.

At least someone on the internet said so.
"In a way, the Lands of Dream are far more brutal than the worlds of most mainstream games. All of the games set there have a bittersweetness that I find much harder to take than the ridiculous adolescent posturing of so-called \'grittily realistic\' games. So maybe one reason I like them as a setting is because they are far more like the real world: colourful, crazy, full of strange creatures and people, eternal and yet changing, deeply beautiful and sometimes profoundly bitter."

Pseudoephedrine

#409
January 09, 2012, 02:15:48 AM
Quote from: misterguignol;502120I've actually been playing 4e as a skirmish-size mini wargame using "army lists" made from the Monster Vault using tape measure and round burst and blast templates.  Works a treat.

Good to hear. I first started doing this because I didn't want to have to go find something covered in 1" squares to play 3.5, and when I went to 4e I just kept on doing the same thing.
Running
The Pernicious Light, or The Wreckers of Sword Island;
A Goblin\'s Progress, or Of Cannons and Canons;
An Oration on the Dignity of Tash, or On the Elves and Their Lies
All for S&W Complete
Playing: Dark Heresy, WFRP 2e

"Elves don\'t want you cutting down trees but they sell wood items, they don\'t care about the forests, they\'\'re the fuckin\' wood mafia." -Anonymous

James Gillen

#410
January 09, 2012, 03:32:11 AM
Quote from: misterguignol;502017Q: Why does a Warlord shouting at you help you regain your Hit Points?
A: The Warlord's shouting unconsciously reminds you of your father shouting when you were a child, which triggers your Oedipal complex.  You shrug off your wounds and fight harder, not because you're inspired but because you want to prove to your father that you've stolen his penis metaphorically.  Because psychology.

I keep going back to that idea of making the Book of Erotic Fantasy for 4E.  In this case orgasm WOULD be a Daily, but leader classes would have their own high-level powers to help people recover their dailies.  Except they wouldn't be called leaders, they'd be called "fluffers."

JG
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 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

James Gillen

#411
January 09, 2012, 03:38:04 AM
Quote from: Fiasco;502106Darwinism is on the wrong end of a bukake and he doesn't even realize it.

You'd have to be truly oblivious to not realize what end of a bukkake you were on.

JG
-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

Fiasco

#412
January 09, 2012, 04:30:54 AM
Quote from: James Gillen;502143You'd have to be truly oblivious to not realize what end of a bukkake you were on.

JG

Indeed, and yet here we have Darwinism.

James Gillen

#413
January 09, 2012, 04:36:21 AM
Quote from: Fiasco;502148Indeed, and yet here we have Darwinism.

Again, I think it's a very ill-chosen name.

JG
-My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line and kiss my ass.
 -Christopher Hitchens
-Be very very careful with any argument that calls for hurting specific people right now in order to theoretically help abstract people later.
-Daztur

Planet Algol

#414
January 09, 2012, 04:39:00 AM Last Edit: January 09, 2012, 04:50:07 AM by Planet Algol
Quote from: Darwinism;502108Also, 1-for-1 diagonal actually maps to reality better than 1-2-1.

Your grasp of high school level math is weak; the length of a line that transits two units in the x and y axis' would have a length of approx. 2.84 units, at 1.42 units per square transited.

1-1-1 = a deviation of .42 units per square
1-2-1 = a mean deviation of .09 units per square
1-2-1-2 = a mean deviation of .08 units per square

"Darwin"
Yeah, but who gives a fuck? You? Jibba?

Well congrats. No one else gives a shit, so your arguments are a waste of breath.

Planet Algol

#415
January 09, 2012, 04:53:19 AM
Also, I can not get my head around the people who cannot handle counting diagonals, are they unable to use money of the calendar as well?

Every two diagonal squares = three squares of movement; dirt simple
Yeah, but who gives a fuck? You? Jibba?

Well congrats. No one else gives a shit, so your arguments are a waste of breath.

Kyle Aaron

#416
January 09, 2012, 04:59:22 AM
What's wrong with hexes?
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StormBringer

#417
January 09, 2012, 04:59:29 AM
Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerous ways, Lord V4der. Your sad  devotion to that ancient 4e religion has not helped you conjure up the Swarm Druid tables, or given you enough clairvoyance to find the OSR's  hidden fortress.

Quote from: David R;502093Perhaps, they find your lack of faith.....disturbing.

Regards,
David R
If you read the above post, you owe me $20 for tutoring fees

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Planet Algol

#418
January 09, 2012, 05:22:51 AM
Quote from: Kyle Aaron;502156What's wrong with hexes?

In the past I would say that Dwarven Forge and most other terrain resources use squares; but I don't use miniatures anymore anyways.
Yeah, but who gives a fuck? You? Jibba?

Well congrats. No one else gives a shit, so your arguments are a waste of breath.

David R

#419
January 09, 2012, 06:08:30 AM
Quote from: StormBringer;502157Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerous ways, Lord V4der. Your sad  devotion to that ancient 4e religion has not helped you conjure up the Swarm Druid tables, or given you enough clairvoyance to find the OSR's  hidden fortress.

:rotfl: Well played, Stormbringer.

By god I wish I was a systems guy so I could assume the mantle of LordV4der. That would be soooo cool. Unlike Booth, these 4E guys, lack panache.

Regards,
David R
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