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The ENNies have jumped the lesbian evil hat shark

Started by RebelSky, August 15, 2022, 03:50:38 PM

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zircher

#15
August 17, 2022, 12:58:45 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on August 17, 2022, 12:05:12 PM
WHY DO WE NOW HAVE TWO IDENTICAL THREADS ON THIS?
Because it drives people like you crazy? (grin) Nah, it is probably just folks posting without doing a search through older posts.  Human nature and all that jazz.  I don't think any malice is intended.  As always, you don't have to read either one of the threads.   :)
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Effete

#17
August 17, 2022, 01:31:10 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 17, 2022, 11:17:43 AM
Quote from: deadDMwalking on August 17, 2022, 10:22:23 AM
I'm not familiar with any of the other games on the list.  Which ones are better than Thirst Sword Lesbians?  Why?

It depends.

Is it pure enough to be submited by the aparatchikcs?

Is it pure enough to pass the purity test of the aparatchicks of the politburo?

Spot on!

But would an award ceremony hosted by this site be much different? Anything with identity politics would be instantly disqualified, even if the game featured solid mechanics and an otherwise interesting premise. That's the truth of all these regimented award shows: they are all biased. Even if you ran a free-form, Fan-voted survey with a substantially large sample size (including both Woke and non-woke participants), the results are still a matter of subjectivity. It's the reason this site has threads debating the merits of BX DnD v. OSE, or WotC 3.0 v. 3.5.

Bottom line: Awards mean shit! What's important is what does the game contain, and will YOU find it enjoyable.

Effete

#18
August 17, 2022, 01:41:52 PM
Just a little taste of what Thirsty Sword Lesbians has to offer... there's an entire section on how characters are supposed to be so lustful, that if they encounter a HAWT lesbo villian, they have internal struggle over whether to fight them or fuck them.

Basically, it's filth appealing to the degenerates in society. That's my subjective opinion.

deadDMwalking

#19
August 17, 2022, 01:59:18 PM
I don't think anyone here needs an explanation that playing a character doesn't mean that represents you and/or your secret desires in real life.  I mean, it COULD.  Some people are pretty sleazy and that sleaze creeps out in all of their characters.  But if you play a game that is awful knowing that it is awful and enjoying it because it is awful, that doesn't mean you're a bad person. One of the early computer games was 'bouncing babies' and while you are nominally saving lives, there's a lot of babies that splat on the sidewalk.

Exploding Kittens is a similar premise, right?  If kittens were ACTUALLY EXPLODING it'd be very different.   
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Effete

#20
August 17, 2022, 02:35:13 PM
Quote from: deadDMwalking on August 17, 2022, 01:59:18 PM
I don't think anyone here needs an explanation that playing a character doesn't mean that represents you and/or your secret desires in real life.  I mean, it COULD.  Some people are pretty sleazy and that sleaze creeps out in all of their characters.  But if you play a game that is awful knowing that it is awful and enjoying it because it is awful, that doesn't mean you're a bad person. One of the early computer games was 'bouncing babies' and while you are nominally saving lives, there's a lot of babies that splat on the sidewalk.

Exploding Kittens is a similar premise, right?  If kittens were ACTUALLY EXPLODING it'd be very different.

Yet at the same time, you think a disclaimer about "being respectful" is warranted. I'm curious if TSL has a similar disclaimer about not grabbing pussies at the table, or dressing up in "insensitive" ways, like wearing a mullet wig and flannel shirts. Oh wait! Some of the artwork literally has butch women with mullets and work boots. OMG!! WHAT ARE THE RULES?!

Armchair Gamer

#21
August 17, 2022, 02:49:19 PM
Quote from: Effete on August 17, 2022, 02:35:13 PM
Yet at the same time, you think a disclaimer about "being respectful" is warranted. I'm curious if TSL has a similar disclaimer about not grabbing pussies at the table, or dressing up in "insensitive" ways, like wearing a mullet wig and flannel shirts. Oh wait! Some of the artwork literally has butch women with mullets and work boots. OMG!! WHAT ARE THE RULES?!


   Anyone who actually wants to play TSL and can get past the Evil Hat creed loyalty oath disclaimer on p. 11 is by definition one of the Anointed or 'gods' and thus free to do whatever they like. Insensitivity is only possible for insufficiently catechized lay worshippers or blaspheming Deplorables.  ;)

Omega

#22
August 17, 2022, 07:54:14 PM
Quote from: Effete on August 17, 2022, 01:41:52 PM
Just a little taste of what Thirsty Sword Lesbians has to offer... there's an entire section on how characters are supposed to be so lustful, that if they encounter a HAWT lesbo villian, they have internal struggle over whether to fight them or fuck them.

Basically, it's filth appealing to the degenerates in society. That's my subjective opinion.

soooooo. FATAL got a new edition and finally won an award?  8)

Effete

#23
August 17, 2022, 08:05:06 PM
Quote from: Omega on August 17, 2022, 07:54:14 PM
Quote from: Effete on August 17, 2022, 01:41:52 PM
Just a little taste of what Thirsty Sword Lesbians has to offer... there's an entire section on how characters are supposed to be so lustful, that if they encounter a HAWT lesbo villian, they have internal struggle over whether to fight them or fuck them.

Basically, it's filth appealing to the degenerates in society. That's my subjective opinion.

soooooo. FATAL got a new edition and finally won an award?  8)

Yes!

GeekyBugle

#24
August 17, 2022, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: deadDMwalking on August 17, 2022, 01:59:18 PM
I don't think anyone here needs an explanation that playing a character doesn't mean that represents you and/or your secret desires in real life.  I mean, it COULD.  Some people are pretty sleazy and that sleaze creeps out in all of their characters.  But if you play a game that is awful knowing that it is awful and enjoying it because it is awful, that doesn't mean you're a bad person. One of the early computer games was 'bouncing babies' and while you are nominally saving lives, there's a lot of babies that splat on the sidewalk.

Exploding Kittens is a similar premise, right?  If kittens were ACTUALLY EXPLODING it'd be very different.

Since I can't play a "Native American" because I don't belong to the tribes (even if I'm more native american than the author of C&C {1/4 Maya}) I guessed I couldn't play a lesbian because I'm not one.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Effete

#25
August 17, 2022, 09:00:54 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 17, 2022, 08:08:12 PM
Since I can't play a "Native American" because I don't belong to the tribes (even if I'm more native american than the author of C&C {1/4 Maya}) I guessed I couldn't play a lesbian because I'm not one.

No need. The book makes it clear that trans-woman ARE woman, so you can still play as a dude that is into chicks.

GeekyBugle

#26
August 17, 2022, 09:15:25 PM
Quote from: Effete on August 17, 2022, 09:00:54 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 17, 2022, 08:08:12 PM
Since I can't play a "Native American" because I don't belong to the tribes (even if I'm more native american than the author of C&C {1/4 Maya}) I guessed I couldn't play a lesbian because I'm not one.

No need. The book makes it clear that trans-woman ARE woman, so you can still play as a dude that is into chicks.

I'm not a translesbian either, I like to pretend I am an Attack Helicopter tho.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Effete

#27
August 17, 2022, 10:55:28 PM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on August 17, 2022, 09:15:25 PM
I'm not a translesbian either, I like to pretend I am an Attack Helicopter tho.

Hahaha! 1/4-Maya go BRRRRR !!
;D

SquidLord

#28
August 18, 2022, 02:13:58 AM
Quote from: Effete on August 17, 2022, 01:31:10 PM
But would an award ceremony hosted by this site be much different? Anything with identity politics would be instantly disqualified, even if the game featured solid mechanics and an otherwise interesting premise.
Find me a game with identity politics, solid mechanics, in an otherwise interesting premise – and I'd be willing to take a look at it. In fact, I'd settle for identity politics and an otherwise interesting premise.

But somehow those two things never travel in the same cart. Asking for solid mechanics on top of that is just gilding the lily.

(For example, Lancer is a fantastic game with political assumptions I don't even vaguely share – but it's still a fantastic game with both interesting mechanics and an interesting premise. Sadly it was a 2020 release. But that's the closest thing I can think of.)

HappyDaze

#29
August 18, 2022, 03:07:45 AM
Quote from: SquidLord on August 18, 2022, 02:13:58 AM
Quote from: Effete on August 17, 2022, 01:31:10 PM
But would an award ceremony hosted by this site be much different? Anything with identity politics would be instantly disqualified, even if the game featured solid mechanics and an otherwise interesting premise.
Find me a game with identity politics, solid mechanics, in an otherwise interesting premise – and I'd be willing to take a look at it. In fact, I'd settle for identity politics and an otherwise interesting premise.

But somehow those two things never travel in the same cart. Asking for solid mechanics on top of that is just gilding the lily.

(For example, Lancer is a fantastic game with political assumptions I don't even vaguely share – but it's still a fantastic game with both interesting mechanics and an interesting premise. Sadly it was a 2020 release. But that's the closest thing I can think of.)
Would Eclipse Phase qualify?
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