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The Dogs Paradox

Started by Warthur, April 03, 2007, 07:15:19 AM

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Warthur

Quote from: flyingmiceWarthur:

It seems like 99% of what you post is about DitV.

Read my posting history before you make assertions like this. 99% of what I've posted for the past couple of days is about Dogs. Beyond that, that ain't the case at all.

I'm ducking out of the conversations anyway because the signal/noise ratio is horrible.

QuoteWhy are you so fixated on it?

I'm not. I play a whole bunch of other games, and I think about them. When I come to a conclusion about it that I think is worth discussing, I post it here, because this is one of the few web forums where you can have a decent discussion about it: other forums tend to be either too in love with it to criticise it objectively, or blissfully unaware of it.

QuoteIt seems like you like it, but have problems with it. Fine. It's not a big deal for anyone else.

GAMES aren't a big deal for me. They're a hobby. They're not as important as my family or my friends or my health or my fiancee. Just because something isn't important doesn't mean you can't have fun debating it.

QuoteSome like it and the "Paradox" doesn't matter. Some don't care for it, and the "Paradox" doesn't matter. Some spit when they see the name and try to stomp it into the earth with posts, but the "Paradox" doesn't matter. The only one it seems to matter to is you, and if you just let go of the thing, and play it the way you want to, no-one would care. Let's move on, then. Play the game the way you want. Who cares what the designer wanted?

Who cares about analysing games as they are written? Who gives a damn about game design? Why are we talking about games in the first place?

I'll let you in on a little clue: I don't believe actual play discussions are as useful as people make them out to be. You can't give someone a perfect, accurate, and all-encompassing overview of what happened in one of your game sessions because you're only one participant. From where I am coming from, discussing games as they are written is the only sensible way to discuss them online, because everyone can at least look at the same book and discuss what's written there.

QuoteThe world is full of games to discuss. Dogs is done. Stick a fork in it.

Sick of me discussing Dogs? You saw the thread title. You presumably saw that I created the thread. If you really dislike my take on Dogs that much then there's no reason for you to blunder into the thread unless you're totally devoted to reading every thread that crops up on theRPGsite.

Who the fuck are you to say "Conversation's over! It's impossible for anyone to say anything useful about this anymore, so let's all not talk about it!"?
I am no longer posting here or reading this forum because Pundit has regularly claimed credit for keeping this community active. I am sick of his bullshit for reasons I explain here and I don\'t want to contribute to anything he considers to be a personal success on his part.

I recommend The RPG Pub as a friendly place where RPGs can be discussed and where the guiding principles of moderation are "be kind to each other" and "no politics". It\'s pretty chill so far.

flyingmice

Quote from: WarthurRead my posting history before you make assertions like this. 99% of what I've posted for the past couple of days is about Dogs. Beyond that, that ain't the case at all.

You are correct, I meant to say "lately." My bad.

Quote from: WarthurWho the fuck are you to say "Conversation's over! It's impossible for anyone to say anything useful about this anymore, so let's all not talk about it!"?

I'm no-one - just another gamer giving my personal opinion, thus no more or less valid tha any other personal opinion. Whatever turns you on, OK? If my post came off as confrontational or angry, it wasn't meant that way. I was probably tired when I wrote it. I'm old, and get cranky if I haven't had my nap. Please accept my apologies! We've had a dearth of threads that are interesting to me personally, otherwise I wouldn't have been reading these Dogs threads. I'll bow out of both now. I really don't have anything more constructive to say on either topic.

-clash
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Brantai

Quote from: SettembriniLo and behold!

Thanatos has finally dropped her mask and let out the Swine!

If only Pundit could see you now.
Does Nisarg even know who he is?

Settembrini

QuoteDoes Nisarg even know who he is?
More than most of us, more than most of us.
If there can\'t be a TPK against the will of the players it\'s not an RPG.- Pierce Inverarity

Warthur

QuoteWe've had a dearth of threads that are interesting to me personally, otherwise I wouldn't have been reading these Dogs threads.

The time-honoured solution to such a problem is to start new threads.
I am no longer posting here or reading this forum because Pundit has regularly claimed credit for keeping this community active. I am sick of his bullshit for reasons I explain here and I don\'t want to contribute to anything he considers to be a personal success on his part.

I recommend The RPG Pub as a friendly place where RPGs can be discussed and where the guiding principles of moderation are "be kind to each other" and "no politics". It\'s pretty chill so far.

Brantai

Quote from: SettembriniMore than most of us, more than most of us.
That's... ominous, I suppose.

Melinglor

Well, Warthur, did my post illuminate anything for you? If not, I guess I'm done.

Peace,
-Joel