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The Brains behind RPG Net Shannon Appelcline Interviewed

Started by Shasarak, November 03, 2019, 09:39:30 PM

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Abraxus

My response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdofmoYcJNE

They dug their own hole and insist on digging it deeper. The rpg.net mods have no sympathy for me. They made their own lives a living hell and become power hungry and triggered and offended by everything. Fuck them collectively. It's reaching a point where the amount of infractions on the forums is become a running joke.

crkrueger

Quote from: Omega;1113013I think alot of normal fora have been gradually destroyed, co-opted or members 'converted' to the cause. Partially because these so called activists see them as fertile breeding grounds for more cultists once you take over. One of those sociopaths I noted above would systematically infiltraite a site and then over time gather enough followers to run off anyone he didn't approve of. Which in many cases meant the death of the site as that meant running off artists and writers who liked to cover multiple themes and suddenly found themselves under attack for doing anything related to a hated theme. And if he could not do that then he'd have members of his little hate group enter a site covertly and then just gather names of members so they could be banned from other sites they did control. And this has been going on for at least two and a half decades.

This right here can not be overstated.  Prior to the Internet, running into a Social Predator, ie, someone with severe narcissistic personality disorder, sociopathy or outright functional psychopathy was rare, and while unpleasant, could be avoided by changing jobs, moving, etc.

Now with the Internet, these people can infect multiple communities online, Left or Right, and play their games of domination and control.  Even worse, the entire social media sphere seems tailor-made for these people to thrive.
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Armchair Gamer

Whether it's a deliberate attempt at creating a 'breeding ground' or not, RPGNet does seem to demonstrate the problems with trying to impose a uniform mode of thinking on a large, previously existing, heterogenous community.

Haffrung

Quote from: CRKrueger;1113026Now with the Internet, these people can infect multiple communities online, Left or Right, and play their games of domination and control.  Even worse, the entire social media sphere seems tailor-made for these people to thrive.

Pretty much. The tribalism of social media - especially the kind fostered by the moronic American culture wars - means people will stay silent and tolerate total assholes so long as the total asshole is in their tribe. And even when the total assholes starts picking off people on their own tribe they'll stay silent because they don't want to become the next target. It really is remarkable that people are so desperate for the sense of identity and security that a tribe offers that they'll put up with that shit.

Appelcline can play the aggrieved victim all he likes, but the unrelenting stress he moans about is his own fault. If you enthusiastically leap into a culture war, you're going to get bashed around. What I find curious is that independent thinking isn't all that uncommon in the real world. So why is partisanship dominant on social media? Why is it so rare to find site owners and mods who are non-partisan and moderate?
 

Toadmaster

Quote from: Haffrung;1113033What I find curious is that independent thinking isn't all that uncommon in the real world. So why is partisanship dominant on social media? Why is it so rare to find site owners and mods who are non-partisan and moderate?

It is easy to move and avoid / seek conflict on the internet. Not so much in the real world. That ease of movement makes it much easier to find a group think bubble that suits you and confirms your world view. Most people don't enjoy conflict, so once a site begins to shift towards a certain world view it will generally accelerate in that direction if uncorrected as "the other side" abandon or are removed from the site.

I've found sites that firmly employ no politics rules tend to be accused of being biased by "both sides". It can be amusing to see a poster rage quit "this liberal cesspool" and the following week another announces their leaving the "rightwing dictatorship". Meanwhile 99% of the posters are happy to keep talking cars and tools, coffee, the proper form of bikini chainmail or what have you.

Omega

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1113029Whether it's a deliberate attempt at creating a 'breeding ground' or not, RPGNet does seem to demonstrate the problems with trying to impose a uniform mode of thinking on a large, previously existing, heterogenous community.

BGG too. It wants to be RPG.net. Only far worse as they have pervaded all levels of board gaming and if they were not so inept and contemptuous of RPGs, would have that too as they became a haven for Forge fanatics and Pundits Swine before being overtaken slowly by the SJW cult.

They allready ban you over there for calling someone a troll, or for mentioning you have someone on ignore, or for alot of other things. Yet allow eurogamers to toss around a racial slur, ameritrash, at any non-euro-game.

TheShadow

Quote from: Omega;1113075Yet allow eurogamers to toss around a racial slur, ameritrash, at any non-euro-game.

Well, American is not a race, no? At worst, a nationality-based slur. And like most such, this used to be uttered with tongue-in-cheek as acceptable ribbing.
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tenbones

Quote from: Omega;1113075They allready ban you over there for calling someone a troll, or for mentioning you have someone on ignore, or for alot of other things. Yet allow eurogamers to toss around a racial slur, ameritrash, at any non-euro-game.

LOL "ameritrash".

I like that. RPGnet is living proof of it. Yeah this isn't racial - this is just pointing out the obvious. But I don't think it's intended for the right targets. But whatever - RPGnet are hypocrites, water is wet, grass is usually green. etc.

Haffrung

Quote from: Omega;1113075Yet allow eurogamers to toss around a racial slur, ameritrash, at any non-euro-game.

Ameritrash is not a term used by Eurogamers to denigrate Americans. It's a self-deprecating term used by people who play Ameritrash games to describe the games they love. Hundreds of members on BGG proudly display Ameritrash user badges. A website devoted to reviewing and promoting those sorts of games calls itself Fortress Ameritrash.

I've explained this to you five or six times. The only people who think Ameritrash is a slur are humourless snowflakes.
 

Omega

Quote from: The_Shadow;1113076Well, American is not a race, no? At worst, a nationality-based slur. And like most such, this used to be uttered with tongue-in-cheek as acceptable ribbing.

No it wasnt. Its allways been derogatory.

tenbones

I confess it might just be me... I don't feel degraded.

American trash is pretty high-quality shit, relatively speaking.

Joey2k

Quote from: Omega;1113122No it wasnt. Its allways been derogatory.

*sigh* As you've been told many, many times, you are very much in the minority in thinking this way.
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Brad

Quote from: Joey2k;1113145*sigh* As you've been told many, many times, you are very much in the minority in thinking this way.

It's my understanding the Eurotards called it Ameritrash, and the people who liked those sorts of games wore it as a badge of honor. So yeah, it was intended to be derogatory, but the intended victims didn't give a fuck.

That said, Eurotard boardgames (at least a lot of them) have so little to do mechanically with the themes they employ I find them hard to enjoy. Catan and Ticket to Ride being notable exceptions.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Omega

Quote from: Brad;1113158It's my understanding the Eurotards called it Ameritrash, and the people who liked those sorts of games wore it as a badge of honor.

No a small group of morons decided to "embrace it" which just allowed these eurofucks to carry on insulting everyone.

TheShadow

Quote from: Omega;1113186No a small group of morons decided to "embrace it" which just allowed these eurofucks to carry on insulting everyone.

Also, damn those idiots who decided to embrace the term "Gothic" when snooty Latin speakers criticised their new-fangled cathedrals as barbaric!
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