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Title: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: dkabq on November 21, 2021, 09:21:08 AM
I received my HeroQuest pledge last week. I got it for equal parts nostalgia and the minis. Despite all of the fears that it was going to be filled with woke nonsense, I am happy to say that I did not find any. Yes, the Elf is now female, which is not a problem for me. But you also got four alternate sex figures (male Elf, female Barbarian, Wizard, and Dwarf). The rules are pretty much what they were in the original. The furniture is now miniatures as opposed to cardboard. The miniatures themselves are not bad. Not the biggest fan of soft-plastic miniatures nor the trend for lots of fiddly details. But in the end I am satisfied with them.

Given the limited time me and my friends have for gaming, it won't get played much. That said, I do have two games scheduled, one for later today, and one the day after Thanksgiving (the latter standing in for the yearly Talisman game/hangover recovery day-after-Thanksgiving from my days in Vegas). And I might get another game or two in during the winter break. Otherwise, it will likely only get pulled out when I have a player have to cancel for our DCC game.

If you had kids and wanted to get them into RPGs, this is a great gateway drug. I know that I would have been jacked if my dad/mom/older person had played this with me in my misspent youth.

YMMV.
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: KingCheops on November 21, 2021, 10:09:46 AM
Still eagerly awaiting mine.  Thanks for the quick review and I look forward to hearing how your games go.
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: FingerRod on November 21, 2021, 12:47:46 PM
Family has been playing most of the weekend with my son at the helm trying to murder us. Great fun.

There is no woke bs at all, and having the extra options are good. We ran two barbarians until lady barbarian was slaughtered in the first mission. Unmodified, that mission is brutal. Which is how I prefer it.

It is currently roleplay light, but he is starting to see the potential in changing that/making his own missions and NPCs.
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: dkabq on November 21, 2021, 09:05:54 PM
Our first game went fairly well right up until the final boss. When the Barbarian is rolling 5 attack dice and get no hits in two rounds, things go pear-shaped fast. The game ended with only the Barbarian remaining, with 1 body point. My favorite part of the game was during the final battle, when the Dwarf (the first to die) was sitting at 1 body point and the Barbarian player said, "Well the good news is that 84 (the amount of gold that the Dwarf had) divides evenly by 3 (the remaining number of PCs).

The game is no push-over. You have to really focus on PC placement in combat or they will get overwhelmed. The mechanic of putting hazards and wandering monsters back into the treasure deck (but not used potions or found treasure) is brutal. And the Elf and Wizard have to really be mindful of their spell economy.

We are going to play a second game on Friday. Quest 2: The Rescue of Sir Ragnar.
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: Hakdov on November 21, 2021, 10:38:59 PM
I certainly hope that BardicBroadcasts makes a new review video for this set.
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: Persimmon on November 21, 2021, 11:22:39 PM
I had the original game back in the 90s and we played it a lot in college when we didn't have time for real D&D.  Somehow that set got lost.  I forgot to back it on pulse last year, but at least I've pre-ordered the base game & two of the quest packs through an online retailer.  Those resale Mythic Tier boxes are going for crazy prices on Ebay.
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: Trond on November 22, 2021, 12:17:28 AM
Funny thing that you mention it ; I just saw that old video "review" again a couple of days ago on youtube :D
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: Hakdov on November 22, 2021, 08:59:13 PM
I've probably watched it at least half a dozen times.  It's hilarious. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx8sl2uC46A&t=7s
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: Omega on November 24, 2021, 08:15:02 AM
Meanwhile across the pond theres been not a peep from HeroQuest 25th after things got rather hot for Dionsio and co. The fate of all the minis that were created for it and waiting in a warehouse is still unknown as of last check.
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: Ratman_tf on November 24, 2021, 05:39:09 PM
Quote from: dkabq on November 21, 2021, 09:21:08 AM
If you had kids and wanted to get them into RPGs, this is a great gateway drug. I know that I would have been jacked if my dad/mom/older person had played this with me in my misspent youth.

Yeah, I been planning to get this out of nostalgia and also to play with my 9 year old nephew.
I don't do kickstarters, and I'm low on funds right now. But I'm going to try and nab a copy when I can.
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: Omega on November 25, 2021, 05:48:58 AM
Lets be clear though. This is not in any way an RPG. Its a board game that emulates elements of an RPG. This according to the designer himself.

Its the sheer elegance of Bakers design that makes it a great little intro of what an RPG can be without the RPG part.
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: KingCheops on November 25, 2021, 11:14:50 AM
Quote from: Omega on November 25, 2021, 05:48:58 AM
Lets be clear though. This is not in any way an RPG. Its a board game that emulates elements of an RPG. This according to the designer himself.

Its the sheer elegance of Bakers design that makes it a great little intro of what an RPG can be without the RPG part.

It was the gateway for me when I was a kid.  We started with this, Battletech, and then I started looking into this Dungeons & Dragons thing.
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: DM_Curt on November 25, 2021, 07:17:39 PM
Quote from: Omega on November 25, 2021, 05:48:58 AM
Lets be clear though. This is not in any way an RPG. Its a board game that emulates elements of an RPG. This according to the designer himself.

Its the sheer elegance of Bakers design that makes it a great little intro of what an RPG can be without the RPG part.
I may be looking into HeroQuest for the first time.  On our way to Thanksgiving, the wife was all "You know what would be cool?....." and described pretty much HeroQuest.

Might bridge the gap between our occasional family board game nights and our "most but not all Sundays" D&D games.
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: finarvyn on November 25, 2021, 09:39:33 PM
It was a great way to get my kids into role playing. I know that HQ isn't an actual RPG, but it's close and...

(1) Our rule was that we all win or we all lose together, and it didn't matter which characters survived. This got them thinking about working together for a common cause.

(2) Again with working together, my kids learned to think strategically instead of "first one to speak gets to act." They would plan in advance which characters would go in which order, who would open doors, etc.

(3) Still with working together, they learned that pooling money to get certain characters better weapons and/or armor would help the party succeed.

I'm sure there are more, but that's what popped into my head at the moment. HQ was a simple game but got them on track to handle complex RPGs later in life.
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: dkabq on November 26, 2021, 08:45:26 PM
Played Quests 2 & 3 today. Much easier that Quest 1. No PCs died this time. It helped that they have figured out the optimal PC placement for combat and have a better understanding of the spell economy. They were also much more judicious in when they searched for treasure. And there was a small bit of role-playing.

Not a bad way to spend an afternoon.
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: Crusader X on February 03, 2024, 06:35:36 PM
HeroQuest is on sale right now on Amazon US for $47.48 and free shipping. I've never played this game before.  I've heard of it, but don't know much about it.  But I take it that this is a really good price?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Q4J1XHZ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: Brad on February 03, 2024, 08:46:29 PM
Quote from: Crusader X on February 03, 2024, 06:35:36 PM
HeroQuest is on sale right now on Amazon US for $47.48 and free shipping. I've never played this game before.  I've heard of it, but don't know much about it.  But I take it that this is a really good price?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Q4J1XHZ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

"Last purchased Dec 25, 2021" for $125.99

And STILL haven't played it yet. What the hell am I doing with my life...
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: Ratman_tf on February 03, 2024, 09:52:21 PM
Quote from: Crusader X on February 03, 2024, 06:35:36 PM
HeroQuest is on sale right now on Amazon US for $47.48 and free shipping. I've never played this game before.  I've heard of it, but don't know much about it.  But I take it that this is a really good price?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Q4J1XHZ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

47 is a steal for all the shit that comes in the box.

Heroquest as a game is dirt simple. It's the Monopoly version of Dungeon Crawling.
But it has a huge nostalgia factor for a lot of people. (Like me) The miniatures and dungeon furniture are neat, and there are already a ton of expansions reprinted and available for purchase.
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: Persimmon on February 03, 2024, 11:21:10 PM
There are also lots of expansions with new quests and miniatures.  I had the original version from ca. 1989, lost it just a few years ago and plunked down over $100 for the new version.  Then I grabbed the first couple expansion packs.  We've only played it maybe 3 times, but in a year or two when my son is a bit older, I know he'll be all over it.  Today he surprised me by asking about my Dungeons & Dragons game because I was transferring characters to new sheets.  Thing is, I'm not sure I ever told him that's what it's called and he's just starting to read (and it was technically Castles & Crusades).  But he's picked that up somewhere and loves rolling dice and playing with the minis.  So HeroQuest will be the gateway.
Title: Re: The best thing about HeroQuest is...
Post by: King Tyranno on February 04, 2024, 06:52:32 AM
For me personally, as a fan of HeroQuest and Advanced HeroQuest I just found the new artstyle to be a bit too bland and clean compared to the classic artwork. I might get the new box when it's super cheap just so I can resin print some nicer looking minis that are more evocative of the old minis. Monstrous Encounters do some great STLs that look much more like what I would expect from a modern HeroQuest rerelease.

(https://cdn2.myminifactory.com/assets/object-assets/5ef3184806c40/images/720X720-hq-barbarians.jpg)
(https://cdn2.myminifactory.com/assets/object-assets/615978d565295/images/720X720-hq-dark-crusaders-up.jpg)
(https://cdn.myminifactory.com/assets/object-assets/5eb9a532c36b3/images/720X720-hq-skeletons.jpg)
(https://cdn2.myminifactory.com/assets/object-assets/5fbf90abf1dd8/images/720X720-hq-elf.jpg)