Quote from: Jason Coplen;864327Turanil's rules limiting halflings and gnomes to 11 STR. That should have been in D&D since the beginning. Yes, the game has dragons blah blah blah, but halflings stronger than blacksmiths was always dumb.

That's why I always liked T&T's way of rolling more or less dice for abilities based on the character's race. For halflings, just roll 2d6, so when you actually get a halfling with 12 STR, he is known amongst his kin as "Baldo the Stout".

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;862333The Domain Level of play in D&D was sadly neglected printwise, and I'm glad ACKS filled the gap.

Quote from: The Butcher;862327I'll have to go with ACKS because it takes B/X plus fragments of other TSR D&D rulesets and refines them into an elaborate game engine
... ACKS feels like Ultimate Classic D&D to me.

Quote from: Bobloblah;862569Hear, hear!

ACKS does a lot of stuff, but the two that stand out to me:

* Showed a completely realized domain game within the limitation of 14 levels which aside from anything else, stops the sort of "what now?" power creep that really dogged D&D for quite some time and got overwhelming in the 3X line

* Rationalized Gold For XP into a complete "circle of life" - gold = level = power, so that an input of gold to a player translates into levels, and that gold is outputted back out as power in the game world, and not just some fake dragon's hoard on a character sheet.


The OSR as a whole, though, was able to break the "me-too"-ness of the other d20 hackups like Pathfinder, etc and warped the OGL to a breaking point - and got away with it, and made all the follow ups possible.

Once that happened, the evolution of people being able to take the simpler systems and produce something novel was all but inevitable. Because of the Internet we can all game in each other's living rooms, try out new ideas and rehash them...We're looking at a space of time in gaming development that is much like all the old 'zines and such of the 70s but at a furious and ridiculous pace.

dcc provided us with coolest warriors & thieves ever.

Quote from: Nerzenjäger;864873That's why I always liked T&T's way of rolling more or less dice for abilities based on the character's race. For halflings, just roll 2d6, so when you actually get a halfling with 12 STR, he is known amongst his kin as "Baldo the Stout".

T&T does handle that nicely. I forgot about that, which is sad because I have the T&T Deluxe pdf to finish reading.

Since Tunnels & Trolls was mentioned, I was looking over my Fight On! copies, and #13 is dedicated to Ken, with a fair amount of content for Tunnels & Trolls.  I imagine it wasn't noticed by many that enjoy the game, since Fight On is assumed a D&D type focused publication.  

That is one of the non-mechanical things Pundit wasn't really looking for in his question, but the amount of involvement and communication with the authors of the first expressions of the various games has been part of the development of the independent games so many have published.  Many of these have been active right here in this forum, as well as all over the internet.

Quote from: ostap bender;864932dcc provided us with coolest warriors & thieves ever.

Damn right. Especially the warriors, who are the harder ones to achieve coolness with.

Quote from: RPGPundit;865501Damn right. Especially the warriors, who are the harder ones to achieve coolness with.

The Deed Die is my absolute most favorite thing about DCC, close second being the "dice scaling" of attack die and such - it's such a ridiculously straight-forward and simple idea, never done before probably(?) just because of the limitations of physical dice available. and it's so much more fun than just a +1 or whatever.

for me personally, it made older editions of D&D readily and easily available. Editions I had no exposure to before hand.

That to me was really important.

Quote from: YourSwordisMine;865533for me personally, it made older editions of D&D readily and easily available. Editions I had no exposure to before hand.

That to me was really important.

Cool.  Then something good has happened.

Even if I don't buy any of their stuff, I'm glad to see tables at conventions run by "one man bands" once again, like it used to be at GenCon in 1976 or 1977.

If Sine Nomine can put out the version of Tekumel they're brainstorming, then the OSR will be the most awesome thing since Peruvian chicken.  

Seriously, it's fucking glorious.

Quote from: Future Villain Band;865569If Sine Nomine can put out the version of Tekumel they're brainstorming, then the OSR will be the most awesome thing since Peruvian chicken.  

Seriously, it's fucking glorious.

It is! Sine Nomine's, I mean. He and the Tékumel Foundation are already talking, the Foundation's shooting itself in the foot if he doesn't walk away with a license.

I could kill for some chicken ají right now, BTW.

Oh, someone likes pollo a la brasa? Preferrably with aioli and papa amarillo papas fritas? Mmm, good stuff, good stuff.

Quote from: Opaopajr;865608Oh, someone likes pollo a la brasa? Preferrably with aioli and papa amarillo papas fritas? Mmm, good stuff, good stuff.

Pollo a la brasa is pretty much rotisserie chicken, which is also a great call. Ají de gallina is more like this (though Oliver, being a bland, neurasthenic nitwit, suggests "red chillies" and makes them "optional" which is total bullshit. Use red chillies or jalapeños if you must but at least try and track down some Peruvian ají amarillo. The nuts OTOH, actually are optional).

Man, I wish we had a food subforum.

Quote from: Future Villain Band;865569If Sine Nomine can put out the version of Tekumel they're brainstorming, then the OSR will be the most awesome thing since Peruvian chicken.  

Seriously, it's fucking glorious.

Ok, that's some seriously good news.

Quote from: The Butcher;865611Pollo a la brasa is pretty much rotisserie chicken, which is also a great call. Ají de gallina is more like this (though Oliver, being a bland, neurasthenic nitwit, suggests "red chillies" and makes them "optional" which is total bullshit. Use red chillies or jalapeños if you must but at least try and track down some Peruvian ají amarillo. The nuts OTOH, actually are optional).

Man, I wish we had a food subforum.

I have family in Peru, so yeah... I'm gastronomically spoiled. "Peruvian chicken" is a rather nebulous term to me then.

And it's true, the real magic is in the right ingredients. (Well, there's quite a bit of technique and taste sense too, but if I told you those secrets I'd have to kill you! ) There really is no substitute for ají amarillo, or rocoto, or límon peruano, or frijoles peruano, or...

(PS: Hey, I started a cooking thread in the Media & Inspiration forum here. RPG settings should be a useful font of gastronomic creativity, what with so many alternate Earth cultures next to each other in a different order.

And you'd think with all the cultural details for Tékumel they'd have a cookbook by now. There's plenty of strange fruit from our Earth jungles to approximate at least a few dishes, no? Ooh, did'j'all see that, brought it all back on topic, I did!)