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Author Topic: THAC0 the Clown in Witchlight Adventure a Dig at Pundit?  (Read 22301 times)

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Re: THAC0 the Clown in Witchlight Adventure a Dig at Pundit?
« Reply #75 on: October 13, 2021, 08:47:38 PM »
I notice Mistwell ignored it pretended to ignore part of my post.

Let me ask again if the adventure had an NPC stuck on a wheelchair and the character not only died they died because they could not get up the bunch of stairs would you still be promoting the product.

Sorry not intentional I had not seen that part of your post directed to me.

I don't view myself as "promoting" the product. I bought it to run for my kid and her friends in 5th grade because I think THEY will like it. I've never said or implied YOU'D like it or anyone else here would like it. It's a kid-friendly adventure and none of you are kids so I don't know where the impression came from that I am "promoting" this adventure to anyone here.

And no I don't think my kid and her friends would enjoy an adventure like the one you describe - particularly since one of her close friends is in a wheel chair and has almost died several times from her condition. But if YOU would enjoy that kind of adventure, have at it. Of course if it's such a minor part of the adventure I can just re-write it or cut it with ease and otherwise it's a good adventure then sure I'd at least consider it.

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If the adventure had a gay character written with the worst stereotypes imaginable of gay culture again would you still like and promote the adventure and suddenly claim to not care about politics.

If the rest of the adventure is worth my time I'd just cut or change that NPC. I don't analyze adventures based on that kind of stuff.

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Or are you going to both be evasive and disingenuous and avoid answering both. Or claim to be the victim when it suits you.

Funny. You're the one claiming I am "promoting" an adventure by saying I like it. But I am the disingenuous one?

By the way I've said the adventure which came just before this one, Candlekeep, is a shitty book in my view. It has bad editing, critical stuff was left out of the book, and I find some of it to be a mess for how I play RPGs. That also had some politics talk surrounding it - but I don't care about that stuff. I care it's not a very good book for my purposes. I think this one is a good book though for my purposes. If it's not good for your purposes, OK then.
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« Reply #76 on: October 13, 2021, 08:51:22 PM »
If I were Hasbro I'd fire everyone involved in this decision.

Pissing off a chunk of the D&D movie audience that they hope to leverage into a lifestyle or something? Ruining the actual game with SJW stuff is one thing but this sort of thing could taint the larger brand and only a fool would put up with that.
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Re: If I were Hasbro
« Reply #77 on: October 13, 2021, 08:53:06 PM »
If I were Hasbro I'd fire everyone involved in this decision.

Pissing off a chunk of the D&D movie audience that they hope to leverage into a lifestyle or something? Ruining the actual game with SJW stuff is one thing but this sort of thing could taint the larger brand and only a fool would put up with that.

Seriously most people find this mildly amusing (in a dad joke sort of way) if they even know what THAC0 is at all. The people "upset" don't seem to be people who buy WOTC products these days anyway.

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Re: If I were Hasbro
« Reply #78 on: October 13, 2021, 08:58:32 PM »
If I were Hasbro I'd fire everyone involved in this decision.

Pissing off a chunk of the D&D movie audience that they hope to leverage into a lifestyle or something? Ruining the actual game with SJW stuff is one thing but this sort of thing could taint the larger brand and only a fool would put up with that.

Seriously most people find this mildly amusing (in a dad joke sort of way) if they even know what THAC0 is at all. The people "upset" don't seem to be people who buy WOTC products these days anyway.

So you missed the people in this same forum saying they will no longer buy anything from WotC?

Never mind that regaining customers is always a good idea if way harder than keeping them. Why piss on your consumer base? or a part of it?
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Re: THAC0 the Clown in Witchlight Adventure a Dig at Pundit?
« Reply #79 on: October 13, 2021, 09:14:45 PM »
Yep and I hate them for making me speak in the defense of that fucking attention whore.
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Re: THAC0 the Clown in Witchlight Adventure a Dig at Pundit?
« Reply #80 on: October 13, 2021, 09:27:06 PM »
Yep and I hate them for making me speak in the defense of that fucking attention whore.
"The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all." --H.L. Mencken

Which is why I speak to deffend all who are targeted for censorship, never mind how much of a scumbag they are.

Doesn't mean I don't resent the utter scumbags that make me defend scumbags nor that I don't enjoy some schadenfreude when it's some procensorship scumbag turn to be cancelled.
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Re: THAC0 the Clown in Witchlight Adventure a Dig at Pundit?
« Reply #81 on: October 13, 2021, 09:29:57 PM »
Yep and I hate them for making me speak in the defense of that fucking attention whore.
"The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all." --H.L. Mencken

Which is why I speak to deffend all who are targeted for censorship, never mind how much of a scumbag they are.

Doesn't mean I don't resent the utter scumbags that make me defend scumbags nor that I don't enjoy some schadenfreude when it's some procensorship scumbag turn to be cancelled.
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Re: THAC0 the Clown in Witchlight Adventure a Dig at Pundit?
« Reply #82 on: October 13, 2021, 10:15:57 PM »
Bad faith post created “asking a question” to the community. Despite supposedly not caring about politics or wanting to fracture the community, op goes on to pick apart and inflame the responses, posting a dozen more times.

I cannot even be mad at the Mistwells or jhkims or HappyDaze trolls. What I cannot believe is how many of you haven’t caught on.

Smarten the fuck up. If this was a genuine question, Mistwell would not have Stanley’d Pundit’s video which discussing this same topic. There was never a question, only bait.

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Re: THAC0 the Clown in Witchlight Adventure a Dig at Pundit?
« Reply #83 on: October 13, 2021, 10:26:59 PM »
Bad faith post created “asking a question” to the community.

No it wasn't. I was not sure if it was intended to poke fun at Pundit or not. I am still not "sure" but my instincts say yes, and Pundit's instincts also say yes, but some others here say no. But I said I found it mildly amusing. Not sure what you view as bad faith about that? To me it was not a political topic, though obviously others think it is and I said up front fair enough.

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Smarten the fuck up. If this was a genuine question, Mistwell would not have Stanley’d Pundit’s video which discussing this same topic. There was never a question, only bait.

Oh for fuck's sake you jackass I posted this BEFORE PUNDIT POSTED HIS VIDEO. He probably found out about this topic from this thread! It's not my fault you're this late to the topic that you didn't even realize we had been discussing it for at least a day if not two before Pundit even got to it.
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Re: THAC0 the Clown in Witchlight Adventure a Dig at Pundit?
« Reply #84 on: October 13, 2021, 10:36:23 PM »
Bad faith post created “asking a question” to the community.

No it wasn't. I was not sure if it was intended to poke fun at Pundit or not. I am still not "sure" but my instincts say yes, and Pundit's instincts also say yes, but some others here say no. But I said I found it mildly amusing. Not sure what you view as bad faith about that? To me it was not a political topic, though obviously others think it is and I said up front fair enough.

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Smarten the fuck up. If this was a genuine question, Mistwell would not have Stanley’d Pundit’s video which discussing this same topic. There was never a question, only bait.

Oh for fuck's sake you jackass I posted this BEFORE PUNDIT POSTED HIS VIDEO. He probably found out about this topic from this thread! It's not my fault you're this late to the topic that you didn't even realize we had been discussing it for at least a day if not two before Pundit even got to it.

So, let me this straight, you're shilling for the module but also not shilling for the module depending on who you ask?

LOL I love the internet, you're the Schrödinger's Shill!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: THAC0 the Clown in Witchlight Adventure a Dig at Pundit?
« Reply #85 on: October 13, 2021, 10:44:32 PM »
Bad faith post created “asking a question” to the community.

No it wasn't. I was not sure if it was intended to poke fun at Pundit or not. I am still not "sure" but my instincts say yes, and Pundit's instincts also say yes, but some others here say no. But I said I found it mildly amusing. Not sure what you view as bad faith about that? To me it was not a political topic, though obviously others think it is and I said up front fair enough.

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Smarten the fuck up. If this was a genuine question, Mistwell would not have Stanley’d Pundit’s video which discussing this same topic. There was never a question, only bait.

Oh for fuck's sake you jackass I posted this BEFORE PUNDIT POSTED HIS VIDEO. He probably found out about this topic from this thread! It's not my fault you're this late to the topic that you didn't even realize we had been discussing it for at least a day if not two before Pundit even got to it.

So, let me this straight, you're shilling for the module but also not shilling for the module depending on who you ask?

LOL I love the internet, you're the Schrödinger's Shill!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I would love to know how "I like this adventure for my kid and her friends" is shilling for it? How does that promote it to you, who is not a kid? It's funny, you don't accuse anyone of "shilling" for anything else they say they like around here. It's only "shilling" when you don't like the product.

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Re: THAC0 the Clown in Witchlight Adventure a Dig at Pundit?
« Reply #86 on: October 13, 2021, 10:59:20 PM »
Bad faith post created “asking a question” to the community.

No it wasn't. I was not sure if it was intended to poke fun at Pundit or not. I am still not "sure" but my instincts say yes, and Pundit's instincts also say yes, but some others here say no. But I said I found it mildly amusing. Not sure what you view as bad faith about that? To me it was not a political topic, though obviously others think it is and I said up front fair enough.

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Smarten the fuck up. If this was a genuine question, Mistwell would not have Stanley’d Pundit’s video which discussing this same topic. There was never a question, only bait.

Oh for fuck's sake you jackass I posted this BEFORE PUNDIT POSTED HIS VIDEO. He probably found out about this topic from this thread! It's not my fault you're this late to the topic that you didn't even realize we had been discussing it for at least a day if not two before Pundit even got to it.

So, let me this straight, you're shilling for the module but also not shilling for the module depending on who you ask?

LOL I love the internet, you're the Schrödinger's Shill!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I would love to know how "I like this adventure for my kid and her friends" is shilling for it? How does that promote it to you, who is not a kid? It's funny, you don't accuse anyone of "shilling" for anything else they say they like around here. It's only "shilling" when you don't like the product.

I would like to know exactly where I SAID you were shilling?

Fuck me, are you an aspie too? either you share that with me or you need to chill out and improve your reading skills.
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

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Re: THAC0 the Clown in Witchlight Adventure a Dig at Pundit?
« Reply #87 on: October 13, 2021, 11:05:55 PM »
Bad faith post created “asking a question” to the community.

No it wasn't. I was not sure if it was intended to poke fun at Pundit or not. I am still not "sure" but my instincts say yes, and Pundit's instincts also say yes, but some others here say no. But I said I found it mildly amusing. Not sure what you view as bad faith about that? To me it was not a political topic, though obviously others think it is and I said up front fair enough.

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Smarten the fuck up. If this was a genuine question, Mistwell would not have Stanley’d Pundit’s video which discussing this same topic. There was never a question, only bait.

Oh for fuck's sake you jackass I posted this BEFORE PUNDIT POSTED HIS VIDEO. He probably found out about this topic from this thread! It's not my fault you're this late to the topic that you didn't even realize we had been discussing it for at least a day if not two before Pundit even got to it.

I am well aware of when posts were made, but if this were really a “question” whether it was two days before or minutes minutes apart, you would not have been so dismissive to his post/opinion. Just a day before you were just asking the same question right?

No, not right. There was never a question, only flame bait. It is dripping throughout your entire first post.

You have dedicated thousands of posts and literal days of your time being a feckless troll. Good use of time.

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Re: THAC0 the Clown in Witchlight Adventure a Dig at Pundit?
« Reply #88 on: October 13, 2021, 11:11:52 PM »
Bad faith post created “asking a question” to the community.

No it wasn't. I was not sure if it was intended to poke fun at Pundit or not. I am still not "sure" but my instincts say yes, and Pundit's instincts also say yes, but some others here say no. But I said I found it mildly amusing. Not sure what you view as bad faith about that? To me it was not a political topic, though obviously others think it is and I said up front fair enough.

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Smarten the fuck up. If this was a genuine question, Mistwell would not have Stanley’d Pundit’s video which discussing this same topic. There was never a question, only bait.

Oh for fuck's sake you jackass I posted this BEFORE PUNDIT POSTED HIS VIDEO. He probably found out about this topic from this thread! It's not my fault you're this late to the topic that you didn't even realize we had been discussing it for at least a day if not two before Pundit even got to it.

So, let me this straight, you're shilling for the module but also not shilling for the module depending on who you ask?

LOL I love the internet, you're the Schrödinger's Shill!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I would love to know how "I like this adventure for my kid and her friends" is shilling for it? How does that promote it to you, who is not a kid? It's funny, you don't accuse anyone of "shilling" for anything else they say they like around here. It's only "shilling" when you don't like the product.

I would like to know exactly where I SAID you were shilling?

Fuck me, are you an aspie too? either you share that with me or you need to chill out and improve your reading skills.

How can, "you're the Schrödinger's Shill!" be read as you saying anything other than you think I am sometimes shilling for it?

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Re: THAC0 the Clown in Witchlight Adventure a Dig at Pundit?
« Reply #89 on: October 13, 2021, 11:15:58 PM »
Bad faith post created “asking a question” to the community.

No it wasn't. I was not sure if it was intended to poke fun at Pundit or not. I am still not "sure" but my instincts say yes, and Pundit's instincts also say yes, but some others here say no. But I said I found it mildly amusing. Not sure what you view as bad faith about that? To me it was not a political topic, though obviously others think it is and I said up front fair enough.

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Smarten the fuck up. If this was a genuine question, Mistwell would not have Stanley’d Pundit’s video which discussing this same topic. There was never a question, only bait.

Oh for fuck's sake you jackass I posted this BEFORE PUNDIT POSTED HIS VIDEO. He probably found out about this topic from this thread! It's not my fault you're this late to the topic that you didn't even realize we had been discussing it for at least a day if not two before Pundit even got to it.

So, let me this straight, you're shilling for the module but also not shilling for the module depending on who you ask?

LOL I love the internet, you're the Schrödinger's Shill!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I would love to know how "I like this adventure for my kid and her friends" is shilling for it? How does that promote it to you, who is not a kid? It's funny, you don't accuse anyone of "shilling" for anything else they say they like around here. It's only "shilling" when you don't like the product.

I would like to know exactly where I SAID you were shilling?

Fuck me, are you an aspie too? either you share that with me or you need to chill out and improve your reading skills.

How can, "you're the Schrödinger's Shill!" be read as you saying anything other than you think I am sometimes shilling for it?

Maybe by reading the sentence above and using everything in context?

Fuck me you're an imbecile incapable of aknowledging when he's wrong.
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Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

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― George Orwell