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What was 3e's "jump the shark" moment?

Started by RPGPundit, May 07, 2011, 12:41:23 PM

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Pseudoephedrine

Quote from: Cranewings;457601For sure.

I have about 4 different Greek and 8 different Persian soldiers for my game. Once they were fleshed out, they've been endlessly useful. Its one of the files on my computer that keeps growing.

Do you try to make your demihumans kind of steriotypical, like elves with long bows and curved blades / two swords and dwarves with shields and hammers or do you try to pound out how their army works?

Army, but I've got that thing about avoiding monoracial cultural groupings in settings I build. Still, most people just ending up using spears, swords and bows, so it doesn't actually require too much work.
Running
The Pernicious Light, or The Wreckers of Sword Island;
A Goblin\'s Progress, or Of Cannons and Canons;
An Oration on the Dignity of Tash, or On the Elves and Their Lies
All for S&W Complete
Playing: Dark Heresy, WFRP 2e

"Elves don\'t want you cutting down trees but they sell wood items, they don\'t care about the forests, they\'\'re the fuckin\' wood mafia." -Anonymous

Cranewings

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;457608Army, but I've got that thing about avoiding monoracial cultural groupings in settings I build. Still, most people just ending up using spears, swords and bows, so it doesn't actually require too much work.

I turned over GM-ship to a buddy of mine who's novice at running, and we had a bit of a conversation about this the other day. He wants to use the Deep Dwarves as bad guys, and have their army attack the surface world.

His image is of a big field battle with deep dwarves standing in rows, "bullrushing" the human army with dwarven sturdiness and using shields and hammers.

I told him, while that sounds cool and very typical, the race you are using lives under ground, climbs everywhere, and fights in tunnels. They've never fought a major surface battle in generations, not even lined up for one for practice. Here is the kicker - they all can turn invisible for three minutes a day. They should be like viking / romulans, decloaking in the middle of camp and attacking while everyone is in their underwear.

Pseudoephedrine

Hah, that's a good idea!

If he still wants the line-up stuff, maybe the dwarves have enslaved nations of ogres and goblins they use for that while the duergar use their invisibility to cause havoc behind enemy lines.
Running
The Pernicious Light, or The Wreckers of Sword Island;
A Goblin\'s Progress, or Of Cannons and Canons;
An Oration on the Dignity of Tash, or On the Elves and Their Lies
All for S&W Complete
Playing: Dark Heresy, WFRP 2e

"Elves don\'t want you cutting down trees but they sell wood items, they don\'t care about the forests, they\'\'re the fuckin\' wood mafia." -Anonymous

Cranewings

Quote from: Pseudoephedrine;457622Hah, that's a good idea!

If he still wants the line-up stuff, maybe the dwarves have enslaved nations of ogres and goblins they use for that while the duergar use their invisibility to cause havoc behind enemy lines.

You hit the nail on the head, but its going to be skeletons (;

DKChannelBoredom

I just discovered that there's no Hook Horror in the first Monster Manual... that's so my moment - kinda very delayed.
Running: Call of Cthulhu
Playing: Mainly boardgames
Quote from: Cranewings;410955Cocain is more popular than rp so there is bound to be some crossover.

Bloody Stupid Johnson

Hook Horrors are in MM II...

Duergar get enlarge person, too. Using the Expanded Psionics Handbook version they get the expansion power instead, so at 7th level (not counting LA) they get to be Huge instead of Large. Not that this helps if you're running E6.