Dystopian Wars/Legions (i can't be arsed to link).

Sliiiightly cheating, but the 40k focused subgames - Necromunda, GorkaMorka - could work for this. They dodge a lot of the setting's baggage, and being set in one small georgraphic are gives you more potential to flesh that out.

You could also expand the concept to other locations - an Eldar Craftworld would work great, for example. And there's maybe even a decent RPG possible in the Blood Bowl world...

Quote from: Dirk Remmecke;623195It exists.

The fifth edition of the Swedish RPG Drakar och Demoner was set in the Chronopia setting.

http://rpggeek.com/rpgfamily/1921/drakar-och-demoner
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drakar_och_Demoner

cool! i knew there was a reason i needed to learn swedish!

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;623249Dystopian Wars/Legions (i can't be arsed to link).

I will, and with love

Dystopian Wars

Dystopian Legions

And I'll add Firestorm Armada (rules are now free)

Firestorm Invasion is their ground based game set in the Firestorm Armada universe

Dystopian Wars and Legions are my two favorite minis games at the moment. Of course, I think I've said that once already in this thread lol

Quote from: ICFTI;623252cool! i knew there was a reason i needed to learn swedish!

Drakar och Demoner is "just" a Swedish BRP clone, so system-wise there would be no need to look into it.

DoD had three settings. Editions 1-4 were set in Ereb Altor (map), edition 5 was set in the world of Chronopia, and with the latest edition they left "generic fantasy" behind and created a new setting based on Scandinavian myths and fairy tales: Trudvang (awesome covers of rule book and setting book).

But it seems they changed the system as well as the new character sheet looks nothing like a BRP sheet.

Wow, I just saw that there is a movie in the making. Look at the characters (link "Karaktärer").

Quote from: Blackhand;622897Flames of War.

BTW, the new Iron Kingdoms RPG is awesome, don't listen to the detractors.

My only real problem was I felt the book was much less interesting to read. Far fewer nifty and useful tidbits scattered about.

The rules themselves are much better but the book just doesn't fire the imagination like the d20 game.

YMMV.

Quote from: Piestrio;623465My only real problem was I felt the book was much less interesting to read. Far fewer nifty and useful tidbits scattered about.

The rules themselves are much better but the book just doesn't fire the imagination like the d20 game.

YMMV.

There is less fiction in the new IKRPG book definitely. But I'm guessing this had to be sacrificed somewhat to make room for all the rules and setting info. The new system is definitely better, and fits with the WarmaHordes mechanics a lot better. It also doesnt carry any of the d20 baggage...

Remember, this is a new launch of the brand. As more books come out, I think we'll see more of the old character that the d20 books had. I am really excited for this.

They also announced their line of novels as well. Should be interesting to see how those turn out.

In fact, just about any of Columbia Games' recent line of wargames would be totally inspiring for historical or quasi-historical RPGs.  Crusader Rex, for instance...

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Quote from: Spinachcat;622772AT-43 was a great scifi setting. They had cool prepainted plastic minis and great rules, but the company went to shit.

Yeah, AT-43 was great while it lasted. I've got a Therian and a UNA army in my closet that I break out every blue moon and play with friends. Great pre-painted minis, evocative setting.

Rackham released a pseudo-RPG supplement for AT-43 called Tactics - which was a poor approximation of an RPG. More a skirmish-level wargame with each player taking on the role of a single model. The "game leader" would present missions to the players, and success would bring experience (and perks) to a player's model.

Quote from: K Peterson;623882Yeah, AT-43 was great while it lasted. I've got a Therian and a UNA army in my closet that I break out every blue moon and play with friends. Great pre-painted minis, evocative setting.

Rackham released a pseudo-RPG supplement for AT-43 called Tactics - which was a poor approximation of an RPG. More a skirmish-level wargame with each player taking on the role of a single model. The "game leader" would present missions to the players, and success would bring experience (and perks) to a player's model.

So kind of a sort of WH40k meets Descent: Journeys in the Dark + Campaign supplement?

Perhaps. I've never played Descent so I can't really comment.

Quote from: thedungeondelver;623894So kind of a sort of WH40k meets Descent: Journeys in the Dark + Campaign supplement?

Probably close to that, though I've never played that game. Warhammer Quest or Necromunda popped into my mind when I tried Tactics. Compared to their minis game, Tactics wasnt very good...

Which was a real shame... Now that I think about it, AT-43 really deserved a good RPG. It also deserved not dying the death it received either...

Quote from: RPGPundit;623845In fact, just about any of Columbia Games' recent line of wargames would be totally inspiring for historical or quasi-historical RPGs.  Crusader Rex, for instance...

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Really? I've played CG's older games (Rommel in the Desert, War of 1812, Napoleon) and although I can see how the system would translate fantastically to medieval conflicts, I don't find them particularly inspirational for RPG-play. What hints at RPG-ness for me is either

a. Unique background, that you couldn't just find anywhere. Thus SJG Ogre kinda inspires GURPS: Ogre, but World in Flames doesn't inspire GURPS WWII. WWII inspires GURPS WWII.

b. Human-level elements. Thus game elements focusing on agents, leaders, magic items, etc.

Another example: Star Trader, another Ares game. This time, players of the board game are merchant corporations (or, sometimes, factions such as the crew of warship that have mutinied and turned pirate). But the game has several kinds of skulduggery: colorful random events that are placed on the turn track before they occur, so that players can learn about them in advance if they have the right connections; also, players can acquire "agents" who help them do things. "Agents" invites thinking about "PCs". It helps of course that ST is already explicitly in the same setting as SPI's Universe, the game has suggestions on using the game as a large-scale background generator for the RPG, and the magazine has another Tim Truman comic.

BTW, White Bear/Red Moon was the first Glorantha game. It was a wargame, but again with personal elements where e.g. individual counters were even defined as being "best friends" with other counters! So, alluding to a colorful background, and having individual-level detail instead of just faceless armies. But a couple RPGs have already been done off of that one.

I'd suggest Rezolution, its a fun little game, with tons of potential for an RPG.

Quote from: Elliot Wilen;624002Really? I've played CG's older games (Rommel in the Desert, War of 1812, Napoleon) and although I can see how the system would translate fantastically to medieval conflicts, I don't find them particularly inspirational for RPG-play. What hints at RPG-ness for me is either

a. Unique background, that you couldn't just find anywhere. Thus SJG Ogre kinda inspires GURPS: Ogre, but World in Flames doesn't inspire GURPS WWII. WWII inspires GURPS WWII.

b. Human-level elements. Thus game elements focusing on agents, leaders, magic items, etc.

Another example: Star Trader, another Ares game. This time, players of the board game are merchant corporations (or, sometimes, factions such as the crew of warship that have mutinied and turned pirate). But the game has several kinds of skulduggery: colorful random events that are placed on the turn track before they occur, so that players can learn about them in advance if they have the right connections; also, players can acquire "agents" who help them do things. "Agents" invites thinking about "PCs". It helps of course that ST is already explicitly in the same setting as SPI's Universe, the game has suggestions on using the game as a large-scale background generator for the RPG, and the magazine has another Tim Truman comic.

BTW, White Bear/Red Moon was the first Glorantha game. It was a wargame, but again with personal elements where e.g. individual counters were even defined as being "best friends" with other counters! So, alluding to a colorful background, and having individual-level detail instead of just faceless armies. But a couple RPGs have already been done off of that one.

I don't know; it could be just me, because they excite the historian in me.  But what I can say is that way back when, the very earliest seed of my Albion campaign came about because I got Richard III.  And if I ever run a "Crusades" campaign, it will be because of Crusader Rex.

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