If you use your pronouns in your bio and love progressive politics then you probably already know about this but on Facebook the leftists have left the OSR and now belong to Sword Dream. I'm sure going to enjoy when this thing collapses and they start to eat each other for not being woke enough.

Because I believe people that have gender issues are inflicted with a mental disease, I'm sure I won't be welcome to play with them. Plus, I'm not white do they won't want me too. Remember that progressives like to be diversity adjacent. The Mexican nanny, the Asian coworker, the black friend. They don't actually like to live with and actually be involved with non progressive whites.

Why do most of the posts of the context "Look what's happening over here!" never contain a link so that we can see for ourselves?

Please link.

Please.

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SWORDDREAM&src=typeahead_click&f=live

Not having any nostalgia for anything pre-1983 in RPGs, and being neither libertarian nor progressive, I'm pretty sure I'm a non-entrant on either the OSR or SWORDDREAM. Not that anyone cares.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1090238being neither libertarian nor progressive

Personally, I think that's the problem with the whole thing.  Politics should not be a component of TTRPGs.  The staunchest diehard conservative and the most bleeding heart liberal should be able to sit at a table, or on a forum, and talk about - or play - TTRPGs without issue.  

That said, I couldn't care less if a bunch of people who don't feel they fit in go off and do their own thing.  More power to 'em, I say.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1090238https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SWORDDREAM&src=typeahead_click&f=live

Not having any nostalgia for anything pre-1983 in RPGs, and being neither libertarian nor progressive, I'm pretty sure I'm a non-entrant on either the OSR or SWORDDREAM. Not that anyone cares.

Jesus, that reads like a bunch of 2nd graders on meth.

Thank you for the link.

Quote from: kythri;1090245Jesus, that reads like a bunch of 2nd graders on meth.

Thank you for the link.

Yes, they are going to decolonize RPGs, fight the patriarchy, smash the fash, abolish slavery, tear down capitalism. By involving themselves in an endless spiral of purity tests self cannibalism and constant denunciation. This reminds me of Atheism+ and how they are now even less relevant than they were before.

Well, I hope they succeed in their stupid little branding enterprise, so I can more easily tell which products to avoid.

Honestly, regardless of the "politics" involved with the new movement, I was expecting this to come someday.

The OSR was more or less a "movement" (at least those who used the nebulous R part which usually meant something like "Revival" or "Renaissance"), and like all self-proclaimed movements, there is usually some change to them--growth, mutation, splintering, or dying off.  Once something gets big enough or enough time passes, you can expect this to happen.

I'm honestly surprised this didn't happen earlier, like 3-4 years ago.

Quote from: Chunkthulhu;1090243Personally, I think that's the problem with the whole thing.  Politics should not be a component of TTRPGs.  The staunchest diehard conservative and the most bleeding heart liberal should be able to sit at a table, or on a forum, and talk about - or play - TTRPGs without issue.  

That said, I couldn't care less if a bunch of people who don't feel they fit in go off and do their own thing.  More power to 'em, I say.

Agreed in principle, but sadly there's so much polarization nowadays you can probably expect this to happen.

Splintering based on ideology alone won't work however unless that takes a back seat to actual creativity.  If the creators focus on their creativity, then it will thrive.  If it's just about proving an ideological point alone, it won't survive.

This blog about the subject seems to get it.

https://graverobbersguide.blogspot.com/2019/06/a-sword-dream.html

Just started reading it and oh boy!

Take this gem " SWORD DREAM

The initialism Second Wave Of Roleplaying Design - DIY Rules Everything Around Me"

So SWORD DREAM = Second Wave Of Roleplaying Design - DIY Rules Everything Around Me

Yep, the freudian slip is there. Also the guy of the blog calls for it to be a movement, a scene not a comuniteh, that's heresy of the worst kind for the woke morons. I'm betting he will get called toxic ASAP.

EDIT: "When, inevitably, someone who claims to be part of SWORD DREAM is discovered as having done terrible, hateful things (it will happen), the reaction should be akin to that of rock n roll fans discovering that one band is problematic (i.e. decrying them and moving on), not that of sailors on one big boat discovering a leak - a "breach" in a community they fooled themselves into believing was somehow ideologically pure and/or self-sustaining, leading to panicked puritanism, cancel culture and performatively woke "discourse"."

Well he seems to know that #YesAllMaleFeminists is true and also that they are (in his own words) "performatively woke". So maybe he's not that dumb.

Quote from: kythri;1090262Well, I hope they succeed in their stupid little branding enterprise, so I can more easily tell which products to avoid.

So do we all my friend.

Should have been called  Turd Nightmare a title which would have made as much sense as SWORD DREAM.

You should all know White Liberals are more Woke than Black people in regards to Racism.

Whites are the new 'standard' for racial activism. Obviously, black & brown people are fkn lames.

So-called minorities need whites to explain how they may or may not be oppressed, even with RPGs.

Quote from: Theory of Games;1090297You should all know White Liberals are more Woke than Black people in regards to Racism.

Whites are the new 'standard' for racial activism. Obviously, black & brown people are fkn lames.

So-called minorities need whites to explain how they may or may not be oppressed, even with RPGs.

Baizuos shouldering the new white man's burden

Meh. This thing will be the gaming scenes equivalent of #metoo for a brief time, then will fade into irrelevance and obscurity.