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Title: Superheros or Mutants & Masterminds
Post by: Bones on March 02, 2006, 07:47:43 PM
I have a weak spot for good deals on RPGs.  I found Marvel Superheros and Mutants & Masterminds for 60% off.  I have never played either or has any of the people I know played it.  I generaly just play D&D but I am at the point I want to try something different.  So my question is are either of them any good?   What are the pros and cons of the systems?
Title: Superheros or Mutants & Masterminds
Post by: Xavier Lang on March 02, 2006, 08:26:20 PM
Quote from: Bones
I have a weak spot for good deals on RPGs.  I found Marvel Superheros and Mutants & Masterminds for 60% off.  I have never played either or has any of the people I know played it.  I generaly just play D&D but I am at the point I want to try something different.  So my question is are either of them any good?   What are the pros and cons of the systems?


I have heard many good things about Mutants and Masterminds but I haver neve gotten to play it.  What do you like or not like about D&D?  That might give us a better idea of which system you would enjoy more.
Title: Superheros or Mutants & Masterminds
Post by: Bones on March 02, 2006, 08:56:31 PM
It is really nothing in the D&D system that I like better than anyother, it is just what I have played for the past 24 years.
Title: Superheros or Mutants & Masterminds
Post by: Mr. Christopher on March 02, 2006, 11:20:35 PM
Quote from: Bones
I found Marvel Superheros and Mutants & Masterminds for 60% off.

Which Marvel RPG was it? There were three very different ones. Also if you found a copy of M&M for 60% off there's a good chance it was the first edition,  so be careful.
Title: Superheros or Mutants & Masterminds
Post by: Seven Astral Kings on March 03, 2006, 12:07:17 AM
We are in favor of Mutants & Masterminds. It has been determined that it is an acceptable system.
Title: Superheros or Mutants & Masterminds
Post by: Bones on March 03, 2006, 08:52:04 AM
Quote from: Satyr
Which Marvel RPG was it? There were three very different ones. Also if you found a copy of M&M for 60% off there's a good chance it was the first edition,  so be careful.

The Marvel was a hardbound book.  I guess I will have to take a closer look.
Title: Superheros or Mutants & Masterminds
Post by: Mr. Christopher on March 03, 2006, 09:01:13 AM
Quote from: Bones
The Marvel was a hardbound book.  I guess I will have to take a closer look.

That means it's the Marvel Universe RPG by QED Games. It got some love at RPGnet but I was disappointed. Here are the reviews:

http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/9/9424.phtml
http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/9/9432.phtml
http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/9/9438.phtml
Title: Superheros or Mutants & Masterminds
Post by: el-remmen on March 03, 2006, 10:01:25 AM
M&M 1E is not a bad game - just some loopholes that can lead to wackiness.

M&M 2E, while I have not actually played yet, I am in the planning stages for a campaign and from everything I can see they improved it a great deal and I am very happy with the changes.

I have never seen a Marvel game I liked - though the diceless one always intrigued me - I just never got a good look at it.
Title: Superheros or Mutants & Masterminds
Post by: Mr. Christopher on March 03, 2006, 10:22:35 AM
Quote from: the ultimate nullifier
I have never seen a Marvel game I liked - though the diceless one always intrigued me - I just never got a good look at it.
The Marvel Super Heroes Adventure Game (diceless, uses cards to randomize) or Marvel Universe RPG (diceless, uses stones and isn't random)? The former's one of my favorite RPGs.
Title: Superheros or Mutants & Masterminds
Post by: el-remmen on March 03, 2006, 10:38:02 AM
Quote from: Satyr
The Marvel Super Heroes Adventure Game (diceless, uses cards to randomize) or Marvel Universe RPG (diceless, uses stones and isn't random)? The former's one of my favorite RPGs.


The former.
Title: Superheros or Mutants & Masterminds
Post by: Mr. Christopher on March 03, 2006, 12:03:36 PM
Quote from: the ultimate nullifier
The former.

Ah, Marvel SAGA. You know that game ruined all other supers RPGs for me. It's the only one I've played that actually felt like a four-color comic book and nothing else since has come close.
Title: Superheros or Mutants & Masterminds
Post by: SmokestackJones on March 04, 2006, 07:56:48 AM
Another vote for Mutants and Masterminds. If you understand D20 you'll fall into it. In addition, there's enough changes (no classes, no HP, only use one D20 to play, no AoO, etc.) to the D20/OGL to make it easier to play and a refreshing change. 1e is good but 2e is best.
 
-SJ
Title: Superheros or Mutants & Masterminds
Post by: Yig on March 04, 2006, 06:32:43 PM
Quote from: SmokestackJones
Another vote for Mutants and Masterminds.  If you understand D20 you'll fall into it.  In addition, there's enough changes (no classes, no HP, only use one D20 to play, no AoO, etc.) to the D20/PGL to make it easier to play and a refreshing change.  1e is good but 2e is best.

-SJ


I agree with everyrhing that SJ said.

I'm currently playing in a M&M 2e campaign and we are having a lot of fun.
Title: Superheros or Mutants & Masterminds
Post by: Bones on March 05, 2006, 05:00:55 PM
Well I went with the M&M thanks for the help everyone.
Title: Superheros or Mutants & Masterminds
Post by: Keeper of Secrets on March 19, 2006, 07:51:39 AM
Bones,

Did you get first ed. or second ed.?  

M&M is a great game.  I say this a lot but it bears repeating:  It used to be that I felt all supers games sucked and it was a matter of trying to find the least sucky for my supers needs.  M&M changed all that and actually brought forth a great system.
Title: Superheros or Mutants & Masterminds
Post by: Silverlion on March 21, 2006, 06:36:18 PM
Quote from: Satyr
Ah, Marvel SAGA. You know that game ruined all other supers RPGs for me. It's the only one I've played that actually felt like a four-color comic book and nothing else since has come close.


A Marvel Saga forum just went up by the way and the mailing list is still active (its no 2 tied with MSH on my list, no 1 is my own game :) ) anyway glad you like Saga though.

-Tim
Title: Superheros or Mutants & Masterminds
Post by: CleanCutRogue on March 21, 2006, 11:01:32 PM
I liked the old FASERIP system myself... always wished I'd find other settings using those rules with minor tweaks.

But as to the OP: you picked M&M before I could place my vote, but I think you selected properly.  M&M is a great interpretation of the d20 system, although I am not altogether sure that I like the Power Level system and beginning the game at level 10 (or whatever).