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Suddenly, used Pathfinder on the shelves...

Started by mcbobbo, July 05, 2014, 07:40:32 PM

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Shipyard Locked

#30
July 06, 2014, 06:27:08 PM
Quote from: Mjollnir;765292I hate most of his art. Maybe it's just the style Paizo wants, I've seen some of his stuff that I do like, but I generally don't care for his cartoony anime style, at all.

Anime!?:confused:

JeremyR

#31
July 06, 2014, 06:54:45 PM
Quote from: Shipyard Locked;765294Anime!?:confused:



While not all of his stuff is, I think much of it certainly touches on anime. Oh sure, they have noses, but....

Fiasco

#32
July 06, 2014, 07:05:44 PM
Where PF and 4E were largely separate armed camps I seems great deal more movement back and forth between PF and 5E. I can totally see people running adventure paths with 5E.

Paizo will be fine but if 5E is perceived as a much better solution to 3E's issues than their 3.75 paint job they could lose a fair chunk of market share. Which would mean they probably go right back to focussing on adventure writing and maybe even producing a 5E line.

Larsdangly

#33
July 06, 2014, 07:23:56 PM
Trends in fantasy artwork might be a significant driver for generational differences in taste among all these games. The visual style of most commercial products for 3E, 4E and PF makes my skin crawl. I'm sure it is just an age thing, but whenever I see a well done, more toned-down and realistic drawing, like the artwork in The One Ring, I am much more comfortable with and interested in a game. Actually, my favorite is the sort of line drawing used in the margins of Burning Wheel or the wildly imaginative artwork in Dungeon Crawl Classics. I'm sure 5E won't approach any of these, but so far it is less like a garish video game and more like Alan Lee, so I'm liking it.

Marleycat

#34
July 06, 2014, 07:54:26 PM
Quote from: JeremyR;765303

While not all of his stuff is, I think much of it certainly touches on anime. Oh sure, they have noses, but....

That sword is pure anime and over the top but I do like the elf to the right.
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)

Opaopajr

#35
July 06, 2014, 08:07:18 PM
Even the art, Katamari Damacy edition... just say no. :nono:
Just make your fuckin\' guy and roll the dice, you pricks. Focus on what\'s interesting, not what gives you the biggest randomly generated virtual penis.  -- J Arcane
 
You know, people keep comparing non-TSR D&D to deck-building in Magic: the Gathering. But maybe it\'s more like Katamari Damacy. You keep sticking shit on your characters until they are big enough to be a star.
-- talysman

Snowman0147

#36
July 06, 2014, 09:08:26 PM
What is wrong with anime?  I mean at least they are not shoving in giant eyeball cat girls with their heads about x2 their whole body at us.  I mean this appears to be pretty decent.

Bedrockbrendan

#37
July 06, 2014, 09:37:46 PM
Quote from: Snowman0147;765354What is wrong with anime?  I mean at least they are not shoving in giant eyeball cat girls with their heads about x2 their whole body at us.  I mean this appears to be pretty decent.

I don't think there is anything wrong with anime. I like it. But anime is cartoonish and I guess I find overly cartoonish art doesn't really inspire me in the direction of D&D style fantasy. I like the anime style in anime movies. Not a huge fan of it in d20 fantasy books.

dragoner

#38
July 06, 2014, 09:39:45 PM
Quote from: Marleycat;765317That sword is pure anime and over the top but I do like the elf to the right.

I like the one on the left. ;)
The most beautiful peonies I ever saw ... were grown in almost pure cat excrement.
-Vonnegut

hexgrid

#39
July 07, 2014, 09:50:48 AM
Quote from: Larsdangly;765311Trends in fantasy artwork might be a significant driver for generational differences in taste among all these games. The visual style of most commercial products for 3E, 4E and PF makes my skin crawl.

I actually don't think 4e should be included in that list- art was one area where 4e was a big improvement over 3e/Pathfinder.

Take, for example, the 4e dungeon master screen vs. the pathfinder game master screen.

4e- bunch of monsters who want to kill/eat the PCs, hanging out in a dungeon:

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs37/f/2008/241/5/2/52eb2e0d38cbd3dd98706060e2397114.jpg

Pathfinder- bunch of ugly-ass "iconic" PCs floating in nothing:

http://www.paperspencils.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/DSCF27981.jpg
 

Zeea

#40
July 07, 2014, 10:18:01 AM
I like the Pathfinder barbarian's sword. In her backstory, it says she got it from killing a frost giant and that she can only use it effectively when raging.

Haffrung

#41
July 07, 2014, 10:19:43 AM
Quote from: hexgrid;765480I actually don't think 4e should be included in that list- art was one area where 4e was a big improvement over 3e/Pathfinder.

Take, for example, the 4e dungeon master screen vs. the pathfinder game master screen.

4e- bunch of monsters who want to kill/eat the PCs, hanging out in a dungeon:

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs37/f/2008/241/5/2/52eb2e0d38cbd3dd98706060e2397114.jpg

Pathfinder- bunch of ugly-ass "iconic" PCs floating in nothing:

http://www.paperspencils.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/DSCF27981.jpg

Definitely. 4E artwork - especially the later stuff - isn't all that bad. Pathfinder art is just appalling - it's all about the special snowflake anime PCs striking dungeon-punk poses. I have no idea why Paizo and WotC both went with art style they did. It's not as though fantasy artwork in general has gone all video-gamey on us. Just look at the art for Lord of Rings and A Game of Thrones books, calendars, games, etc. D&D could only dream of being as popular as those properties.

 

flyerfan1991

#42
July 07, 2014, 10:53:58 AM
Quote from: JeremyR;765303

While not all of his stuff is, I think much of it certainly touches on anime. Oh sure, they have noses, but....

I used to hate Amiri's sword to no end --it just looked like pure Final Fantasy stuff to me-- but that sword is actually a frost giant's sword, not "generic barbarian sword". Her backstory is that she killed the frost giant and took the sword as a token, but she can only wield it effectively when she's raging.

Larsdangly

#43
July 07, 2014, 10:57:06 AM
GoT and ToR artwork is just fucking awesome. If I were in charge of a big-print-run commercial game like 5E I would totally jack their shit.

Marleycat

#44
July 07, 2014, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: dragoner;765361I like the one on the left. ;)

The Swashbuckler?
Don\'t mess with cats we kill wizards in one blow.;)
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