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Steve Jackson Games Goes Red on the Woke Meter

Started by Cathode Ray, July 08, 2022, 06:04:09 AM

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deadDMwalking

Edit - Posted while RPGPundit was also posting. 
When I say objectively, I mean \'subjectively\'.  When I say literally, I mean \'figuratively\'.  
And when I say that you are a horse\'s ass, I mean that the objective truth is that you are a literal horse\'s ass.

There is nothing so useless as doing efficiently that which should not be done at all. - Peter Drucker

Shasarak

Quote from: RPGPundit on July 20, 2022, 05:51:37 PM
This is not the place to discuss the politics of Star Trek. People who keep derailing the thread with that off-topic discussion, or any other off-topic discussion, will be banned.

Yes let us return to commenting on how an RPG producer is donating their profits to a fund named after a Demon so that women can kill their unborn children.
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Ocule

Quote from: Shasarak on July 20, 2022, 08:00:01 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 20, 2022, 05:51:37 PM
This is not the place to discuss the politics of Star Trek. People who keep derailing the thread with that off-topic discussion, or any other off-topic discussion, will be banned.

Yes let us return to commenting on how an RPG producer is donating their profits to a fund named after a Demon so that women can kill their unborn children.

A case of reality is stranger than fiction. If it were a novel I'd say that's too heavy handed but alas they even have cult costumes
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jhkim

Quote from: Ocule on July 20, 2022, 09:16:02 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on July 20, 2022, 08:00:01 PM
Yes let us return to commenting on how an RPG producer is donating their profits to a fund named after a Demon so that women can kill their unborn children.

A case of reality is stranger than fiction. If it were a novel I'd say that's too heavy handed but alas they even have cult costumes

And conversely, another RPG producer names themselves "Venger Satanis" after a male devil, and publishes an RPG module explicitly dedicated to taking away a woman's right to an abortion.

Reality is strange, but then, it's always been strange.

Shasarak

Quote from: jhkim on July 20, 2022, 09:55:18 PM
Quote from: Ocule on July 20, 2022, 09:16:02 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on July 20, 2022, 08:00:01 PM
Yes let us return to commenting on how an RPG producer is donating their profits to a fund named after a Demon so that women can kill their unborn children.

A case of reality is stranger than fiction. If it were a novel I'd say that's too heavy handed but alas they even have cult costumes

And conversely, another RPG producer names themselves "Venger Satanis" after a male devil, and publishes an RPG module explicitly dedicated to taking away a woman's right to an abortion.

Reality is strange, but then, it's always been strange.

You know you are having a bad day when even the Pope disagrees with you
Who da Drow?  U da drow! - hedgehobbit

There will be poor always,
pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus

Timothe

Quote from: jhkim on July 20, 2022, 09:55:18 PM
Quote from: Ocule on July 20, 2022, 09:16:02 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on July 20, 2022, 08:00:01 PM
Yes let us return to commenting on how an RPG producer is donating their profits to a fund named after a Demon so that women can kill their unborn children.

A case of reality is stranger than fiction. If it were a novel I'd say that's too heavy handed but alas they even have cult costumes

And conversely, another RPG producer names themselves "Venger Satanis" after a male devil, and publishes an RPG module explicitly dedicated to taking away a woman's right to an abortion.

Reality is strange, but then, it's always been strange.

Actually, he's named after a D&D cartoon character. Why don't you ask him? With your number of posts surely you've noticed that he's a member of this forum, as well as one of Pundit's video cohosts.

DocJones

Quote from: Koltar on July 20, 2022, 08:25:15 AM
Quote from: Shasarak on July 20, 2022, 02:25:38 AM

Luckily for you Star Trek has always been political.

No, it really hasn't been or was not 'political'. It always takes place around 200 years or so into the future - so of course things have 'changed' - usually for the better.

That used to be called 'progressive' or 'future thinking', it wasn't political.

- Ed C.
Star Trek is a horrible dystopian future. 
The only bright spot is the Ferengi empire.
All hail "The rules of aquisition"



Ratman_tf

Quote from: RPGPundit on July 20, 2022, 05:51:37 PM
This is not the place to discuss the politics of Star Trek. People who keep derailing the thread with that off-topic discussion, or any other off-topic discussion, will be banned.

Aight. On the Woke-O-Meter, I give this stance by SJG a 2.75 out of 10. They support Roe, but then a lot of people do without being screeching retards. Company's got an official statement, they're welcome to have one and make it public. The "Lilith Fund" sounds like the usual wink and jab at conservative religion, and not an indication that they're Satanist Baby Killers.

I imagine the only reason we've made it this far on the thread is because some posters here have strong opinions about RvW and abortion in general and SJG is a fairly big name in gaming.



The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

Sacrificial Lamb

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on July 18, 2022, 11:53:00 AM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer on July 10, 2022, 10:55:54 AM
Is anyone talking about this anywhere else? I'm not seeing it discussed over on TBP, but they may be hiding the celebration in Tangency.

  It's taken a week, but someone is trying to rally the hordes to the SJG banner ... https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/a-time-to-rally.899681/


The guy trying to "rally the hordes" at rpg.net (C31R07) is using a new account created a week ago. Not too smart. I would not be surprised if the mysterious poster in question works for or with Steve Jackson Games, in some capacity. And I don't know why, but I get this weird feeling that Jackson secretly doesn't even fully control his own company any more. But whatever.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on July 21, 2022, 02:45:55 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 20, 2022, 05:51:37 PM
This is not the place to discuss the politics of Star Trek. People who keep derailing the thread with that off-topic discussion, or any other off-topic discussion, will be banned.

Aight. On the Woke-O-Meter, I give this stance by SJG a 2.75 out of 10. They support Roe, but then a lot of people do without being screeching retards. Company's got an official statement, they're welcome to have one and make it public. The "Lilith Fund" sounds like the usual wink and jab at conservative religion, and not an indication that they're Satanist Baby Killers.

I imagine the only reason we've made it this far on the thread is because some posters here have strong opinions about RvW and abortion in general and SJG is a fairly big name in gaming.

The abortion industry is indeed a satanic ritual, involving mass child sacrifice. It always was. But a lot of people haven't figured that out yet. That said, I would have been happy to dismiss him as yet another selfish normie Boomer, who's clueless about the evils of abortion. But then he started sperging about a bunch of other (seemingly unrelated) globohomo issues, and donated to that fucking demonic fund.

The fund he made a PRESS RELEASE for is not called the "Women's Rights Fund". That fund is named after a DEMON who kills babies. And this is advocated by a guy with a Luciferian Illuminati logo on his site? Yeah, ok. ::) Jackson (or whomever is in control over there) knows EXACTLY the significance of the abortion fund's name. That perverse motherfucker knows.

He knows.  >:(

jeff37923

Quote from: Timothe on July 20, 2022, 10:53:49 PM
Quote from: jhkim on July 20, 2022, 09:55:18 PM
Quote from: Ocule on July 20, 2022, 09:16:02 PM
Quote from: Shasarak on July 20, 2022, 08:00:01 PM
Yes let us return to commenting on how an RPG producer is donating their profits to a fund named after a Demon so that women can kill their unborn children.

A case of reality is stranger than fiction. If it were a novel I'd say that's too heavy handed but alas they even have cult costumes

And conversely, another RPG producer names themselves "Venger Satanis" after a male devil, and publishes an RPG module explicitly dedicated to taking away a woman's right to an abortion.

Reality is strange, but then, it's always been strange.

Actually, he's named after a D&D cartoon character. Why don't you ask him? With your number of posts surely you've noticed that he's a member of this forum, as well as one of Pundit's video cohosts.

Ah, but that would go against his reason de antre which is misinformation cleverly disguised as intellectual honesty!
"Meh."

Ratman_tf

#295
Quote from: Sacrificial Lamb on July 21, 2022, 04:35:07 AM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer on July 18, 2022, 11:53:00 AM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer on July 10, 2022, 10:55:54 AM
Is anyone talking about this anywhere else? I'm not seeing it discussed over on TBP, but they may be hiding the celebration in Tangency.

  It's taken a week, but someone is trying to rally the hordes to the SJG banner ... https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/a-time-to-rally.899681/


The guy trying to "rally the hordes" at rpg.net (C31R07) is using a new account created a week ago. Not too smart. I would not be surprised if the mysterious poster in question works for or with Steve Jackson Games, in some capacity. And I don't know why, but I get this weird feeling that Jackson secretly doesn't even fully control his own company any more. But whatever.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on July 21, 2022, 02:45:55 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 20, 2022, 05:51:37 PM
This is not the place to discuss the politics of Star Trek. People who keep derailing the thread with that off-topic discussion, or any other off-topic discussion, will be banned.

Aight. On the Woke-O-Meter, I give this stance by SJG a 2.75 out of 10. They support Roe, but then a lot of people do without being screeching retards. Company's got an official statement, they're welcome to have one and make it public. The "Lilith Fund" sounds like the usual wink and jab at conservative religion, and not an indication that they're Satanist Baby Killers.

I imagine the only reason we've made it this far on the thread is because some posters here have strong opinions about RvW and abortion in general and SJG is a fairly big name in gaming.

The abortion industry is indeed a satanic ritual, involving mass child sacrifice. It always was. But a lot of people haven't figured that out yet. That said, I would have been happy to dismiss him as yet another selfish normie Boomer, who's clueless about the evils of abortion. But then he started sperging about a bunch of other (seemingly unrelated) globohomo issues, and donated to that fucking demonic fund.

The fund he made a PRESS RELEASE for is not called the "Women's Rights Fund". That fund is named after a DEMON who kills babies. And this is advocated by a guy with a Luciferian Illuminati logo on his site? Yeah, ok. ::) Jackson (or whomever is in control over there) knows EXACTLY the significance of the abortion fund's name. That perverse motherfucker knows.

He knows.  >:(

Pffft. This is the guy who published In Nomine, an irreverant RPG about Angels and Devils and religion. SJG has been courting controversy all the time it's existed. They only got close (AFAIK) with the FBI raids.

But you want to proclaim he's a Satan worshipper participating in the intentional sacrifice of babies. I can believe some far out conspiracies, but I'm gonna need some direct evidence and not conjecture over 1. The illuminati symbol, chosen because they, y'know, made a game about the illuminati, and 2. An abortion fund named after a mythological demon.

I'd sooner believe that people who play Dungeons and Dragons are satan worshippers because the game is full of demons and magic spells.
The notion of an exclusionary and hostile RPG community is a fever dream of zealots who view all social dynamics through a narrow keyhole of structural oppression.
-Haffrung

HappyDaze

Quote from: Sacrificial Lamb on July 21, 2022, 04:35:07 AM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer on July 18, 2022, 11:53:00 AM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer on July 10, 2022, 10:55:54 AM
Is anyone talking about this anywhere else? I'm not seeing it discussed over on TBP, but they may be hiding the celebration in Tangency.

  It's taken a week, but someone is trying to rally the hordes to the SJG banner ... https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/a-time-to-rally.899681/


The guy trying to "rally the hordes" at rpg.net (C31R07) is using a new account created a week ago. Not too smart. I would not be surprised if the mysterious poster in question works for or with Steve Jackson Games, in some capacity. And I don't know why, but I get this weird feeling that Jackson secretly doesn't even fully control his own company any more. But whatever.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on July 21, 2022, 02:45:55 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 20, 2022, 05:51:37 PM
This is not the place to discuss the politics of Star Trek. People who keep derailing the thread with that off-topic discussion, or any other off-topic discussion, will be banned.

Aight. On the Woke-O-Meter, I give this stance by SJG a 2.75 out of 10. They support Roe, but then a lot of people do without being screeching retards. Company's got an official statement, they're welcome to have one and make it public. The "Lilith Fund" sounds like the usual wink and jab at conservative religion, and not an indication that they're Satanist Baby Killers.

I imagine the only reason we've made it this far on the thread is because some posters here have strong opinions about RvW and abortion in general and SJG is a fairly big name in gaming.

The abortion industry is indeed a satanic ritual, involving mass child sacrifice. It always was. But a lot of people haven't figured that out yet. That said, I would have been happy to dismiss him as yet another selfish normie Boomer, who's clueless about the evils of abortion. But then he started sperging about a bunch of other (seemingly unrelated) globohomo issues, and donated to that fucking demonic fund.

The fund he made a PRESS RELEASE for is not called the "Women's Rights Fund". That fund is named after a DEMON who kills babies. And this is advocated by a guy with a Luciferian Illuminati logo on his site? Yeah, ok. ::) Jackson (or whomever is in control over there) knows EXACTLY the significance of the abortion fund's name. That perverse motherfucker knows.

He knows.  >:(
Looks to me like SJG successfully trolled you and got you bleating out some new wave satanic panic bullshit. But then, it was targeted at those that seek perpetual outrage...and they come from the right as often as they come from the left.

Dylan: King of the Dead

d69

Ghostmaker

Quote from: Sacrificial Lamb on July 21, 2022, 04:35:07 AM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer on July 18, 2022, 11:53:00 AM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer on July 10, 2022, 10:55:54 AM
Is anyone talking about this anywhere else? I'm not seeing it discussed over on TBP, but they may be hiding the celebration in Tangency.

  It's taken a week, but someone is trying to rally the hordes to the SJG banner ... https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?threads/a-time-to-rally.899681/



The guy trying to "rally the hordes" at rpg.net (C31R07) is using a new account created a week ago. Not too smart. I would not be surprised if the mysterious poster in question works for or with Steve Jackson Games, in some capacity. And I don't know why, but I get this weird feeling that Jackson secretly doesn't even fully control his own company any more. But whatever.

Quote from: Ratman_tf on July 21, 2022, 02:45:55 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 20, 2022, 05:51:37 PM
This is not the place to discuss the politics of Star Trek. People who keep derailing the thread with that off-topic discussion, or any other off-topic discussion, will be banned.

Aight. On the Woke-O-Meter, I give this stance by SJG a 2.75 out of 10. They support Roe, but then a lot of people do without being screeching retards. Company's got an official statement, they're welcome to have one and make it public. The "Lilith Fund" sounds like the usual wink and jab at conservative religion, and not an indication that they're Satanist Baby Killers.

I imagine the only reason we've made it this far on the thread is because some posters here have strong opinions about RvW and abortion in general and SJG is a fairly big name in gaming.

The abortion industry is indeed a satanic ritual, involving mass child sacrifice. It always was. But a lot of people haven't figured that out yet. That said, I would have been happy to dismiss him as yet another selfish normie Boomer, who's clueless about the evils of abortion. But then he started sperging about a bunch of other (seemingly unrelated) globohomo issues, and donated to that fucking demonic fund.

The fund he made a PRESS RELEASE for is not called the "Women's Rights Fund". That fund is named after a DEMON who kills babies. And this is advocated by a guy with a Luciferian Illuminati logo on his site? Yeah, ok. ::) Jackson (or whomever is in control over there) knows EXACTLY the significance of the abortion fund's name. That perverse motherfucker knows.

He knows.  >:(
If C31R07 was an SJG employee, he should be fired for incompetence. He managed to get shitcanned at TBP after less than a week.

VisionStorm

I wonder if C31R07 is actually Battlemaster posting there from a sock account for being butthurt that he got banned here. I'm not sure his writing style is the same, but it could be. He does seem to have at least a single mistyped spelling mistake in every post and he did that a lot here. Might be why he got banned there, assuming it was him and they found out he was trying to circumvent a ban (not sure if he was banned there before, though, but I think I recall him coming here after having problems there).